Official Shark Park & Woolooware Bay Development

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Pointing of fingers of blame does not really help anyone in the situation faced with the Club HERE and NOW. In fact, the perturbations that it causes in its flow on effect causes far more damage than it resolves.

What we need is intelligent and strategic minds proposing achievable solutions to the challenges we face TODAY.

Put it this way... it's half time and you're down by 18.

What do you do?

Do you point fingers of blame or do you focus on a way to get back on the scoreboard and then go on to win?

Time to man up folks and get back to fighting the good fight rather than bitching about the failings of the past.

Time to get over and on with it.
 
Pointing of fingers of blame does not really help anyone in the situation faced with the Club HERE and NOW. In fact, the perturbations that it causes in its flow on effect causes far more damage than it resolves.

What we need is intelligent and strategic minds proposing achievable solutions to the challenges we face TODAY.

Put it this way... it's half time and you're down by 18.

What do you do?

Do you point fingers of blame or do you focus on a way to get back on the scoreboard and then go on to win?

Time to man up folks and get back to fighting the good fight rather than bitching about the failings of the past.

Time to get over and on with it.

Very sound advice Fitz.

I guess the reason the past was raised was to demonstrate that actions NOW often don't result in outcomes (good OR bad) for several years.

Point is, the hard calls and the tight fiscal belt being applied NOW won't directly translate into results in 2011, and possibly even 2012. Decisions made now may not be popular NOW. Conversely, a decision that might appear sound in the here-and-now might have long-lasting and adverse results for the future.

With all the knowledge we have at our disposal, NOW, the development looks to be the right call. The real tragedy is that it's now our last roll of the dice. It'd be bloody nice to have real, viable alternatives. It'd also be nice to have some breathing space in terms of the timeline.

As you point out though, we don't have those luxuries, so our only option is to make this play work. We've got three converted tries and a field goal to score, whilst holding our defensive line firm...
 
Very sound advice Fitz.

I guess the reason the past was raised was to demonstrate that actions NOW often don't result in outcomes (good OR bad) for several years.

Point is, the hard calls and the tight fiscal belt being applied NOW won't directly translate into results in 2011, and possibly even 2012. Decisions made now may not be popular NOW. Conversely, a decision that might appear sound in the here-and-now might have long-lasting and adverse results for the future.

With all the knowledge we have at our disposal, NOW, the development looks to be the right call. The real tragedy is that it's now our last roll of the dice. It'd be bloody nice to have real, viable alternatives. It'd also be nice to have some breathing space in terms of the timeline.

As you point out though, we don't have those luxuries, so our only option is to make this play work. We've got three converted tries and a field goal to score, whilst holding our defensive line firm...

  • Complete your sets
  • No indiscipline
  • No errors
  • No silly penalties
  • No silly offloads
  • No loose carries or hospital passes
  • Build and maintain pressure
  • Get to your kick
  • Aim for a repeat set
  • Try to catch the defensive line napping
  • Play what is in front of you
  • Dominate field position
  • Dominate possession
  • Play smart
  • Act swift, act hard
  • Play & fight WITHOUT FEAR
 
There's a 4 page spread about it in the Leader today.

This is the bit most will be interested in:

Brad Forrest said:
The Leader understands the Sharks’ property development partners will put up a proposal to the club’s lender which would wipe out most of the leagues club’s debt. One preferred deal, if approved, would see:

  • The Sharks receive a fresh $3 million cash injection. About $7 million of the Sharks’ $11.5m in bank debt would be immediately retired.
  • The club retain ownership title of the new retail complex, linked to the club, and providing the Sharks ongoing rental income.
  • The Sharks and developers will share title of a new Sharkies Entertainment complex.
  • The developers will retain majority ownership of the proposed residential complex of up to 700 units, developed in stages over six-seven years, with the Sharks gaining a ‘success fee’ on sales made.
That would be within a year of approval.

I guess that is trading more up-front for less long-term, but still not bad!

Also there will be a 16-story tower in the plans, but these always get knocked down a couple.
 
There's a 4 page spread about it in the Leader today.

This is the bit most will be interested in:


That would be within a year of approval.

I guess that is trading more up-front for less long-term, but still not bad!

Also there will be a 16-story tower in the plans, but these always get knocked down a couple.

just on all of that SF, that sounds like a very expensive ghetto!
i do like that version of the proposal, however, i hope all avenues are explored and the deal the stands to benefit both parties in the best financial way, is the one taken.

i trust Irvine and co to do what is best for the sharkies!
 
http://magresources.f2.com.au/lsu/2010/lsu/

you can read the whole paper online

amazing

in any case. capsis...he says "we will be swallowed by a monster"

where is this monster? the developers? ffs theyre in it for business so are we.

the plan sounds good to me. but then again i dont live there. wiuld it really badly effect traffic around the area?
 
Sharks seeing big bucks

Sharks seeing big bucks
BRAD FORREST
09 Jun, 2011 12:00 PM

CRONULLA Sharks’ property developers have come to an agreement with the club which could fast-track the Sharks from strugglers to one of the better-funded football clubs in the NRL in about 18 months’ time.
Buoyed by community and business support for their development plans, the Sharks are confident of gaining approval by the end of the year to build their $300 million retail, unit and entertainment complex at Woolooware Bay, beside Toyota Stadium.

The Leader understands the Sharks’ property development partners will put up a proposal to the club’s lender which would wipe out most of the leagues club’s debt.

One preferred deal, if approved, would see:

- The Sharks receive a fresh $3 million cash injection.

- About $7 million of the Sharks’ $11.5m in bank debt would be immediately retired.

- The club retain ownership title of the new retail complex, linked to the club, and providing the Sharks ongoing rental income.

- The Sharks and developers will share title of a new Sharkies Entertainment complex.

- The developers will retain majority ownership of the proposed residential complex of up to 700 units, developed in stages over six-seven years, with the Sharks gaining a ‘‘success fee’’ on sales made.

Sharks chairman Damian Irvine said by 2013 the Sharks football club would be at the centre of ‘‘a huge cultural shift’’ in Sydney’s south.

‘‘Within a year of a [3A state government] approval, the Sharks will be in a strong position to spend, with increased revenues and sponsorship, outside the NRL salary cap — and not burdened by paying up to $800,000 a year in bank interest [servicing present debt],’’ he said.

‘‘Combined with the new NRL television deal and the start to our development, the Sharks football club will become one of the better-funded clubs, not just in the short term, but for the long term.

‘‘The Sharks’ development will be quite unique and stand to benefit fans, families, footballers and the wider community in the entire Sutherland Shire.

‘‘No doubt, some of the game’s best footballers will want to be part of it and want to play for the Sharks.’’

He said, in time, the Sharks would also look at modernising the football stadium.

‘‘But buildling the retail, home unit and entertainment complex is the club’s priority, after consultation with the community groups,’’ Irvine said.

Developer Ben Fairfax (Bluestone Property) said: ‘‘We’ve had some doubters, sure, but I’d say in more than 30 presentations we’ve already made, 90 per cent of the parties who have seen the plans have expressed their support.’’

To offset the loss of the Sharks’ adjoining playing fields, joint developers Bluestone Property Solutions, Capital Corporation and Parkview have also agreed to build new community playing facilities at Cronulla High School, including a possible water polo pool, and relocate the Cronulla-Caringbah junior club to there.

The Cronulla and Woolooware high schools and the Wanda park areas would cater for most of the 13 Sharks home, game-day parking, combined with shuttle bus services to and from the ground.
http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/sport/rugby-league/sharks-seeing-big-bucks/2190514.aspx
 
http://magresources.f2.com.au/lsu/2010/lsu/

you can read the whole paper online

amazing

in any case. capsis...he says "we will be swallowed by a monster"

where is this monster? the developers? ffs theyre in it for business so are we.

the plan sounds good to me. but then again i dont live there. wiuld it really badly effect traffic around the area?

thats awesome.. thanks for the link. can now read the leader from the gold coast... Sweet! :cheers
 
The focus of the development always seems to be the payments we receive from the developers which are obviously vital as the money will be used to address the most pressing issue, the club debt.

But what seems to overlooked in the commentary and discussion is the long term affect this will have, it makes us sustainable.

We've struggled for cash since our inception because the leagues club is in a dodgy location. By building 700 units next door we are creating a customer base for the leagues club long into the future. If the leagues club can start making big money like Canterbury, because suddenly we have a few thousand people basically living on the site, we'll be successful.
 
Plus having all of that retail there too 1976.

Look at the drawings and the integration looks awesome, and the whole area looks so much more well presented as well.
 
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