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He’s sht he’s not crafty and he doesn’t look to manipulate the middle of the ruck at all costs at all times

Happy to just go about his job

I want a dog in the 9, scheming, sniffing and testing the other team whenever he can, fk with their minds, keep them guessing

9 is such an important role but we have a very laidback person steering the ship
I thought you were pumping for Mozza at Hooker ( tackles like a terrier ;) ) , until the last line ;)
 

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Should we move Talakai from centre
- I agree that defending next to Moylan would not be easy. Talakai's body size also makes it hard to move laterally when asked to cover for the man inside also.
- FWIW, I don't want Talakai to come off the bench. If I moved him, he would be in the starting team. I feel he is a little wasted in the centres. The forward pack currently lacks go forward, something Talakai can bring in spades, and off the back of go forward, he produces alot of momentum, which is another thing our forward pack lacks.
- Like you said, he giving us big metres each week, but these metres are mainly through hitups.
- However, there is no ready replacement for him at centre that would enable Fitzgibbon to contemplate moving him
Not to keep disagreeing with you (I just like to think we are having conversations!)

So far this season Talakai has run
201, 149, 167

And Teig has run
113, 131, 176

For Teig these are the 3rd most from our forwards, 5th most from forwards, 1st most from forwards

So while I understand the thought behind it I don't see it as gaining enough to warrant the move. We are replacing one of our best meter makers with another. Bringing some skills Talakai has more into the middle but going away from what Wilton has done well (hard lines) which have helped give Talakai/Ronnie space on backline plays. Talakai's bullocking runs I think are comparatively powerful on tackle 2 (as the centre) as they are tackle 3 (as a forward).

If Iro was more defensively sound it starts to get a bit more interesting for me but currently Talakai and Wilton are both going well enough I don't think we bench one to slightly change the position of the other.

Talakai is 12th in NRL for PCM and 16th for meters made, so not like he is being grossly underutilised.
Wilton outside top 50 for run meters but does slip in for average PCM.
 

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questions for the pod this week, with answer and discussions

1) what is your solution to sifa not playing in the centres?
2) how long does moylan have left in the team?
3) is nich hynes the best player in the competition?

also, please hit us with your questions or topics for discussion
 

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questions for the pod this week, with answer and discussions

1) what is your solution to sifa not playing in the centres?
2) how long does moylan have left in the team?
3) is nich hynes the best player in the competition?

also, please hit us with your questions or topics for discussion

1) There is no solution, keep him there. Defence is his issue and there is no one else internally who is a better alternative at this stage. With the ball in hand there is currently no one better. The real question is who would replace him if suspended / injured, probably Hiroti? Ronaldo? If every option you can think of made you feel poop like it did me it’s the perfect point of Sifa being the best option.

2) Yesterday. He’s unfortunately outrageously limited these days aside from a nice touch here or there. Seemingly every fourth or fifth time he touches the ball he is tucking it under the arm for a hit up. Trindall offers more than Moylan in more things than not now.

3) He’s a 40m field goal on the buzzer away from regular pundits putting him in the conversation with Cleary. He’s certainly on the path though and he’s unquestionably the most marketable player in the comp.

Question: One spot left in the top 30, who are you signing out of Chad Townsend and Blayke Brailey?
 

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1) There is no solution, keep him there. Defence is his issue and there is no one else internally who is a better alternative at this stage. With the ball in hand there is currently no one better. The real question is who would replace him if suspended / injured, probably Hiroti? Ronaldo? If every option you can think of made you feel poop like it did me it’s the perfect point of Sifa being the best option.

2) Yesterday. He’s unfortunately outrageously limited these days aside from a nice touch here or there. Seemingly every fourth or fifth time he touches the ball he is tucking it under the arm for a hit up. Trindall offers more than Moylan in more things than not now.

3) He’s a 40m field goal on the buzzer away from regular pundits putting him in the conversation with Cleary. He’s certainly on the path though and he’s unquestionably the most marketable player in the comp.

Question: One spot left in the top 30, who are you signing out of Chad Townsend and Blayke Brailey?
i'd take the fine
 

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2) Yesterday. He’s unfortunately outrageously limited these days aside from a nice touch here or there. Seemingly every fourth or fifth time he touches the ball he is tucking it under the arm for a hit up. Trindall offers more than Moylan in more things than not now.

Tried to see if there were any useful numbers around this but there really wasn't as both our halves can rack up some runs, but even if I differentiate for 'hit ups' Moylan recorded none of them on the weekend, so all in all pretty useless info.

I thought Moylan did run a lot this round, although I don't recall ever thinking there was a particularly good situation wasted. If he see's nothing and runs it does keep the defender on him thinking he may run at later times so I don't have a massive issue with it when used right.

Round 1
Moylan 9 runs 36 rec (run every 4.3 touches)
Trindall 4 runs 46 rec (run every 11.5 touches)

Round 2
Moylan 8 runs 42 rec (run every 5.25 touches)
Trindall 5 runs 41 rec (run every 8.2 touches)

Round 3
Moylan 21 runs 50 rec (run every 2.3 touches)
Trindall 14 runs 50 rec (run every 3.6 touches)

Round 4
Moylan 13 runs 35 (run every 2.6 touches)
Hynes 13 runs 57 (run every 4.4 touches)

Only things of note - must have had a game plan for halves to move around more vs Canberra as that is a big rise in run for both guys, and a lot of touches.
And Moylan v Halfback touches gap was at it's biggest in round 4 with Nicho back.
 

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Tried to see if there were any useful numbers around this but there really wasn't as both our halves can rack up some runs, but even if I differentiate for 'hit ups' Moylan recorded none of them on the weekend, so all in all pretty useless info.

I thought Moylan did run a lot this round, although I don't recall ever thinking there was a particularly good situation wasted. If he see's nothing and runs it does keep the defender on him thinking he may run at later times so I don't have a massive issue with it when used right.

Round 1
Moylan 9 runs 36 rec (run every 4.3 touches)
Trindall 4 runs 46 rec (run every 11.5 touches)

Round 2
Moylan 8 runs 42 rec (run every 5.25 touches)
Trindall 5 runs 41 rec (run every 8.2 touches)

Round 3
Moylan 21 runs 50 rec (run every 2.3 touches)
Trindall 14 runs 50 rec (run every 3.6 touches)

Round 4
Moylan 13 runs 35 (run every 2.6 touches)
Hynes 13 runs 57 (run every 4.4 touches)

Only things of note - must have had a game plan for halves to move around more vs Canberra as that is a big rise in run for both guys, and a lot of touches.
And Moylan v Halfback touches gap was at it's biggest in round 4 with Nicho back.
I definitely wasn’t suggesting him tucking the ball underneath the wing if nothing on was a bad thing. But if that’s what’s going to happen I’d much prefer Trindall to be running that rock.

Outside a magic touch or two (ala the tip-on), I really don’t know what Trindall doesn’t do better than Moylan at this stage.
 

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questions for the pod this week, with answer and discussions

1) what is your solution to sifa not playing in the centres?
2) how long does moylan have left in the team?
3) is nich hynes the best player in the competition?

also, please hit us with your questions or topics for discussion

1) Short-term he stays there, long-term we may have to go to market or consider shifting Ronnie in-field (Personally not a fan).
I like Kayal but he's been in our system for awhile now and defence is still awful at cup level, that's a concern for mine.

2) I'm hoping until the bye, if he doesn't fire this weekend Nicho and Tricky have 2 weeks to iron out any wrinkles in their Combo. I'd consider using Moylan late in games off the bench.

3) he's getting close.

Question

Dykes is obviously out for the rest of this year but could we look at doing a Burton with him?
He's 6.1ft, 92 kgs so certainly has the size to play in the centre's, haven't seen enough of him defensively to know if he could handle it though.
Should we give him a full pre-season out there if it means being able to fit him in the team with Will and Tricky?
Just a random thought I had.
 

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Dykes is obviously out for the rest of this year but could we look at doing a Burton with him?
He's 6.1ft, 92 kgs so certainly has the size to play in the centre's, haven't seen enough of him defensively to know if he could handle it though.
Should we give him a full pre-season out there if it means being able to fit him in the team with Will and Tricky?
Just a random thought I had.
Good left field thinking (y)
 

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The Dykes thing isn't outrageous.

(I'm obviously a bit higher on Talakai at centre than most but) I think Talakai easily holds him off for centre next season although he could beat Iro if his defence is better.

If he concentrates on centre next season maybe he could push Sifa to bench for 2025, and maybe play one or two years there depending on where we are at with Kennedy.
I guess if we kept him doing some reps at fullback he might still be able to transition okay vs if he wasn't playing NRL but was Jets FB every week.
 

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Tried to see if there were any useful numbers around this but there really wasn't as both our halves can rack up some runs, but even if I differentiate for 'hit ups' Moylan recorded none of them on the weekend, so all in all pretty useless info.

I thought Moylan did run a lot this round, although I don't recall ever thinking there was a particularly good situation wasted. If he see's nothing and runs it does keep the defender on him thinking he may run at later times so I don't have a massive issue with it when used right.

Round 1
Moylan 9 runs 36 rec (run every 4.3 touches)
Trindall 4 runs 46 rec (run every 11.5 touches)

Round 2
Moylan 8 runs 42 rec (run every 5.25 touches)
Trindall 5 runs 41 rec (run every 8.2 touches)

Round 3
Moylan 21 runs 50 rec (run every 2.3 touches)
Trindall 14 runs 50 rec (run every 3.6 touches)

Round 4
Moylan 13 runs 35 (run every 2.6 touches)
Hynes 13 runs 57 (run every 4.4 touches)

Only things of note - must have had a game plan for halves to move around more vs Canberra as that is a big rise in run for both guys, and a lot of touches.
And Moylan v Halfback touches gap was at it's biggest in round 4 with Nicho back.
For a player that takes that many runs Moylan is pretty fking **** at it
 

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The Dykes thing isn't outrageous.

(I'm obviously a bit higher on Talakai at centre than most but) I think Talakai easily holds him off for centre next season although he could beat Iro if his defence is better.

If he concentrates on centre next season maybe he could push Sifa to bench for 2025, and maybe play one or two years there depending on where we are at with Kennedy.
I guess if we kept him doing some reps at fullback he might still be able to transition okay vs if he wasn't playing NRL but was Jets FB every week.

I'm very happy with Sifa at centre just to be clear.
Think we all need to remember he spent 3 or so years developing his body to play second row. He's still working towards prime build for centre.

Just spitballing idea's to get Dykes 1st grade experience more than anything.
 

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1). Probably has to stay there for the year at least and I have no problem with it. If we do need to move him. Ronnie centre and stonestreet or Ikuvalu on the wing. Although I don’t know how safe Katoa is at the moment either.
2). You’d think to the bye but I don’t know if you wanna run a test of tricky and Hynes at the roosters so maybe after that game against the dogs
3). I don’t think there’s anyone better at the moment
 
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