Official Nicho Hynes

Vichyssoise said:
I remember the short-lived outrage when Covell purposely missed a kick from bang in front against the Warriors.
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Yet another reason the clock should always be stopped after a try is scored
I recall Sticky not wanting to risk the ball hitting the post and the Warriors getting the ball back

Sticky should have given the kick to someone else, save Covells stats lol, spose we needed to make sure the ball went dead

Vichyssoise said:
Controversial take, but I think he plays better this year than when he won the DallyM (never quite understood how he won that).
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Nah he was on fire in his Dally M season - our back line was humming and he was a big part of that (and Moylan)

However I would say he is a more balanced and well rounded player now even if he has lost a little pace and distance on his kicks

His defense against Souths was really strong (made some important tackles) and his running game continues to feature and I don't need to elaborate on his goal kicking
 
Gards said:
Nah he was on fire in his Dally M season - our back line was humming and he was a big part of that (and Moylan)

However I would say he is a more balanced and well rounded player now even if he has lost a little pace and distance on his kicks

His defense against Souths was really strong (made some important tackles) and his running game continues to feature and I don't need to elaborate on his goal kicking
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I think both are equally impressive. He was the guy during 2022 and had to make all the plays, which he did consistently. Didn't help us against the tougher teams, though, or when it mattered.

Now he's playing brilliantly as part of a team going well. The whole spine is playing well as a unit, and he's a key cog in that, but not everything has to go through him. His touches per game from that year are down around 20-30%.
 
Sharksby40 said:
I think both are equally impressive. He was the guy during 2022 and had to make all the plays, which he did consistently. Didn't help us against the tougher teams, though, or when it mattered.

Now he's playing brilliantly as part of a team going well. The whole spine is playing well as a unit, and he's a key cog in that, but not everything has to go through him. His touches per game from that year are down around 20-30%.
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This is kicking, or more specifically "last plays".

Tackles 0-4 Nicho's touches are the same with Tricky as as with Moylan.

Tricky and Moylan have had a similar amount of involvement on non last-plays, but in different ways:
- Tricky has more kicks and more touches running on the last.
- Tricky has more touches in good ball; Moylan had more outside good ball
- Moylan had more touches where he passed to Nicho. Tricky more touches where he passes to someone else.
- Tricky receives the ball more often from Nicho.
- Nicho passed the ball to Kennedy more often when paired with Moylan.

Running on the last is also up in general compared to 2022 with the rule change on contested dropouts.

All of the above is demonstrable fact. Not just my opinion. Dummy half passes on yardage don't count.

I can understand why Nicho won the Dally M in 2022. Players who do "more stuff" get remembered.

I also think the 2022 finals campaign gets unfairly remembered. Didn't get the job done but they weren't healthy. Were missing a few and had several others playing on one leg. Kennedy in particular was known to be really struggling, but there were a few others.
 
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Vichyssoise said:
It would be funny, but the pundits would immediately demand an asterisk is placed next to the record.
"How dare the Sharks disrespect the game?"; "Relocate them!"; "El Mazri is the rightful record holder!"
Fox would spin this ad nauseam into something bigger than the Storm's cap breaches or our own peptide stupidity.
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And that’s exactly why I want them to do it.

Would be hilarious and it would piss if that flog Mason who wants his mate to keep it.
 
Sharks NRL Prospects said:
This is kicking, or more specifically "last plays".

Tackles 0-4 Nicho's touches are the same with Tricky as as with Moylan.

Tricky and Moylan have had a similar amount of involvement on non last-plays, but in different ways:
- Tricky has more kicks and more touches running on the last.
- Tricky has more touches in good ball; Moylan had more outside good ball
- Moylan had more touches where he passed to Nicho. Tricky more touches where he passes to someone else.
- Tricky receives the ball more often from Nicho.
- Nicho passed the ball to Kennedy more often when paired with Moylan.

Running on the last is also up in general compared to 2022 with the rule change on contested dropouts.

All of the above is demonstrable fact. Not just my opinion. Dummy half passes on yardage don't count.

I can understand why Nicho won the Dally M in 2022. Players who do "more stuff" get remembered.

I also think the 2022 finals campaign gets unfairly remembered. Didn't get the job done but they weren't healthy. Were missing a few and had several others playing on one leg. Kennedy in particular was known to be really struggling, but there were a few others.
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All makes sense and supports what I said. It's not everything has to go through Nicho anymore, and I think the team is better for it and less predictable.
Art Vandelay said:
nicho hynes played fantastically in that week 1 semi in 2022
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Agreed, he was probably our best. It still wasn't enough unfortunately. We're a better defensive side now too so hopefully that will carry us well this year.
 
Sharksby40 said:
All makes sense and supports what I said. It's not everything has to go through Nicho anymore, and I think the team is better for it and less predictable.
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Yeah for sure. Having quality options on last play and in good ball attack is an improvement.

It's just not true that Nicho is doing less with ball in hand on tackles 0-4 (you didn't say that, but many articles do say it based purely on that reduced "receipts per game" stat). I think for most people the player who does more kicking and has the most touches in good ball attack is who they remember. Nicho was doing more that in 2022 so got the love, but is playing the same in other areas of his game as he was then.
 
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Tiger Shark said:
The more I think about it the more I want them to game this record and give Trindall the hard kicks haha
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Or just let him get it legitimately. Or not – makes no difference either way. Paying the record any sort of attention would be throwing a spanner in our own works. The Football Gods exist and they would not be happy with that.
 
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