Official Nicho Hynes

Bundy Shark said:
Possibly but my take is, they are at least winning the occasional comp, not every 50 plus years like us.

Until we start jagging the occasional comp we are always gunna leave ourselves open for pot shots.
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tbf the vast majority of the NRL isn't really jagging the occasional comp
 
Bundy Shark said:
Possibly but my take is, they are at least winning the occasional comp, not every 50 plus years like us.

Until we start jagging the occasional comp we are always gunna leave ourselves open for pot shots.
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****in irrelevant. And if it were, its all the more reason they are choking harder than we are

Melbournes had a much much better squad on paper the last 5 years and they have nothing. Just like us.

We haven choked the last 2 years. We’ve made it to prelims. Won finals games.

For some reason we have goal posts that are always moving. Even just for Nicho, guy can be top 3 in try assists and line break assists and his team go toa prelim and people still want to bag the guy cos he dosnt have a 40-20 in him
 
Have I missed something? Who has put their name to an article calling us chokers (apart from opposition fans - and us on this forum)?

We are far from being chokers. Lacking the team to go all the way - maybe. Chokers? - laughable.

Compare our team to those at the top end of town - rep players, training facilities, support staff etc. We are punching way above our weight
 
BlackWhiteBlue said:
****in irrelevant. And if it were, its all the more reason they are choking harder than we are

Melbournes had a much much better squad on paper the last 5 years and they have nothing. Just like us.

We haven choked the last 2 years. We’ve made it to prelims. Won finals games.

For some reason we have goal posts that are always moving. Even just for Nicho, guy can be top 3 in try assists and line break assists and his team go toa prelim and people still want to bag the guy cos he dosnt have a 40-20 in him
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Record will show that with the greatest coach, player, and fullback of all time, alongside a top 5 halfback of all time, they only won 2 (legally). Winning one more with the best coach, and best spine over a 6 year period is also disappointing.
apezza said:
Have I missed something? Who has put their name to an article calling us chokers (apart from opposition fans - and us on this forum)?

We are far from being chokers. Lacking the team to go all the way - maybe. Chokers? - laughable.

Compare our team to those at the top end of town - rep players, training facilities, support staff etc. We are punching way above our weight
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I think there was a bit of chat about choking before the finals last year, but we certainly squashed it with two wins.
 
bort said:
tbf the vast majority of the NRL isn't really jagging the occasional comp
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Yeah, I agree, the last 20 or so years backs that statement up, I probably would've been better using the term having some history from winning comps.
We are currently 1/59, have played enough finals to have a better rate than that, taking 50 yrs to break our duck has given non sharks people fair chance to cast shad on us.
 
BlackWhiteBlue said:
****in irrelevant. And if it were, its all the more reason they are choking harder than we are

Melbournes had a much much better squad on paper the last 5 years and they have nothing. Just like us.

We haven choked the last 2 years. We’ve made it to prelims. Won finals games.

For some reason we have goal posts that are always moving. Even just for Nicho, guy can be top 3 in try assists and line break assists and his team go toa prelim and people still want to bag the guy cos he dosnt have a 40-20 in him
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I can agree with a lot of your post, just offering perspective why non sharks fans lay the boot in with generic comments, to be fair, all clubs cop heat etc from opposing fans, because we/you are a sharks fan it burns us more.
Storm salary cap cheating
Roosters brown paper bags
 
apezza said:
Have I missed something? Who has put their name to an article calling us chokers (apart from opposition fans - and us on this forum)?

We are far from being chokers. Lacking the team to go all the way - maybe. Chokers? - laughable.

Compare our team to those at the top end of town - rep players, training facilities, support staff etc. We are punching way above our weight
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I get that mate, when you break it down, we do at times punch above our weight when you break down our roster v others, club or monetary resources available we go ok, on the other side of the fence, over the years we have shot ourselves in the foot by missed opportunities where we had a fair shot but come up empty handed.

Probably a bad analogy but de Minaur in the tennis, poor bugger is giving himself a chance every slam & has a red hot go, he’s just not as good as the absolute elite of elite player.
Sometimes we are the de minaur, we are up against a Goliath, but there have been times we shat the bed & for that, we are gunna get labeled chokers.
If or when we win a few more comps it’ll be something else the Shark haters will throw at us, for me, water off a ducks back.
 
Blue_Eyes84 said:
I feel sorry for Nicho. The NRL media love to give it to him. I hope he can shut them up this year.
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Not only Nicho, they collectively build a player up & the same media types later run a critical campaign to get clicks.

On top of the non sharks fans they love to tear down the person who through no fault of their own who previously got positive write up after write up.

I do feel for Nicho but he also had a run of nothing stars,,rainbows & unicorns for a while, now, of for the past few seasons he has been heavily scrutinised.

At present, Walsh from the Broncos is riding the crest of a wave, has the majority of the media are frothing over him, he’ll always have a portion of the media who will temper his great play in the write ups cause they don’t like him & will be ready for the pile on if he puts afoot wrong off the field or if his form drops & he starts playing some shockers.
 
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Bulldogs should really be copping **** for their last 2 seasons.

Knocked out the first week of the finals, then top 4 and out in straight sets.

The same record that we had in Fitzys first 2 seasons (but in reverse), and we copped heaps for not winning a final.
 
Mr Ryan said:
Bulldogs should really be copping **** for their last 2 seasons.

Knocked out the first week of the finals, then top 4 and out in straight sets.

The same record that we had in Fitzys first 2 seasons (but in reverse), and we copped heaps for not winning a final.
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They cropped up from a much lower position than we did though. 3 years ago they were battling to avoid the spoon.
 
Capital_Shark said:
They cropped up from a much lower position than we did though. 3 years ago they were battling to avoid the spoon.
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Yeah, but they are in the business of winning premierships.

Most neutrals would have them tracking up, but the reality is - at this point - they haven’t won a finals match in this era.
 
And further to my point, the TAB has got them shorter than us.

A team, that if you wanted to write a narrative, has failed to deliver in big games the last 2 seasons.
 

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Mr Ryan said:
And further to my point, the TAB has got them shorter than us.

A team, that if you wanted to write a narrative, has failed to deliver in big games the last 2 seasons.
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TBF (not that I want to, especially to the Dogs)
It’s been a very lean streak of them playing finals except the past 2 yrs they only played finals once (in 2016) the past 10 yrs, for them, they have been a bottom dwelling club for a fair chunk of time, hence, them getting a easier critique in the media.
I dare say, if they don’t win a finals game this year the media will start getting stuck into them & media articles will be written, the pressure will then increase come 2027 season & the finals if they make them.

We are making finals generally every year, bar once the last 10 yrs so it sort of goes with the territory you get called all things, including chokers in you aren’t jagging a comp.
We have, or are starting to even out the ledger the past two seasons with some finals wins but since the 2016 GF win our win/loss ratio in finals was pretty poor.
 
Bundy Shark said:
TBF (not that I want to, especially to the Dogs)
It’s been a very lean streak of them playing finals except the past 2 yrs they only played finals once (in 2016) the past 10 yrs, for them, they have been a bottom dwelling club for a fair chunk of time, hence, them getting a easier critique in the media.
I dare say, if they don’t win a finals game this year the media will start getting stuck into them & media articles will be written, the pressure will then increase come 2027 season & the finals if they make them.

We are making finals generally every year, bar once the last 10 yrs so it sort of goes with the territory you get called all things, including chokers in you aren’t jagging a comp.
We have, or are starting to even out the ledger the past two seasons with some finals wins but since the 2016 GF win our win/loss ratio in finals was pretty poor.
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Yep, we're comparing apples to oranges here.
 
Comes down to expectations I think.
We're always in the finals, so that's just the baseline now. That's boring year on year.
Bulldogs have been ordinary for 10 years, so getting into the finals means they're now champions gearing for a tilt at the premiership.
Newcastle are... always Newcastle.
Tigers have clawed their way off the bottom rung, so are an up and coming team full of potential.
Every player is under their peak potential unless they move to Melbourne. Because players have a history of getting better in that system.

They're easy, lazy narratives. Perfect for the news.
 
Raiders were minor premiers and went out in straight sets. If they want to talk about chokers then that's them but even that seems kinda unfair.

They came up against a Broncos side with a player in Walsh in freak form and putting down comeback performances like a training run

They were tired against a motivated Sharks side and got out played

You can have a successful season but find yourself in a situation when you drop a couple important games - it happens. Doesn't mean you choked

It's not like they came up against the Tigers and Titans in the finals - they played 2 strong sides that had arguably timed their run of form

The Sharks finished outside the Top 4 and knocked over 2 good teams on the way to a Prelim that most didn't give them an even chance of winning. And certainty not a GF win

Yet the Sharks still almost got the job done against the Storm in Melbourne. That is not choking, it's just getting outplayed in a few key moments and having a bit of lack of experience. IIRC the refs were less than favorable to the Sharks as well which is just bad luck

Choking is when an obviously more skilled team or player becomes anxious or nervous in a big game and due to letting it get to them doesn't play their normally superior game - not what happened to us

Maybe we choked in our first few years of finals under Fitz when we lost our week 1 finals games at home or whatever
The John Lang era Sharks were one of if not the best team in the comp but kinda crumbled in the finals

I'm not even a fan of the term choking. Dealing with nerves, anxiety, bad luck ect. is all a part of competitive sport (pro and amateur) whether that be the first game of the season or the Grand Final. It's not like an opposition is gunna lay down and not apply any pressure and let you do what you want just because the public expects you to get a certain result
 
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