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Thanks for posting CM. I'm really glad I live in this era, rather than 30,40 or 50 years ago when men's mental health or mental health in general was brushed aside. I know for sure it can feel embarrassing to admit you are struggling to cope and I have had times when I have had bad thoughts but what gets me down a bit more is that there is no way I could end my life, I'd be too scared to do it! People say suicide is the coward's way out and that may be true, but I just could not do it. So, when thinking about this, I feel that my situation is not as bad as others who have felt there is no other way.

I'm approaching 60 (May next year) and it is scaring the life out of me. I have usually been OK with zero birthdays in years gone by but at 60, I'll only be 20 years away from 80 and it is just terrifying to think of. Life goes so quick. My health isn't great with my diabetes, and with my weight about 30-40 kgs more than it should be. Only way I can reverse my diabetes is to lose that weight but I have been on so many diets over the years and my weight has gone up and down like a yo-yo, not sure I can handle another period of losing weight.

I'm finding it hard to converse with the younger generation as well, technology is passing me by and I feel that there is a lot I am missing. This doesn't bear well for my job as conversing with young people is the main focus! I am constantly being left downhearted about people not replying to my phone calls, texts or emails about job interviews and prospects and being ghosted - work colleagues and family sympathise but they don't quite get the feeling I have when this happens. I'd love to move jobs, but I have no real qualifications and who is going to take someone on in a new role at my age. There are other similar companies in my industry but what I am earning is much better than most people in these companies, doing the same job I do.

I am worried about my son who is in Year 8 at school and has absolutely zero interest in any of his subjects. I did not like school either but I did as I was told, went to Year 12 and completed. I have tried so many times to motivate my son (without scaring the hell out of him) about how important school is, but he just can't see it. He's in a good school, with good teachers but he is not finding any motivation anywhere. I'm worried that come Year 12 and the end of school, he is going to end up without a job or career.

I'm sure many others have these worries but I hope they are dealing with it better than me!

Please don't worry though, I am not going to do anything silly and I do feel a bit better having opened up a bit on here.
 

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Thanks for posting CM. I'm really glad I live in this era, rather than 30,40 or 50 years ago when men's mental health or mental health in general was brushed aside. I know for sure it can feel embarrassing to admit you are struggling to cope and I have had times when I have had bad thoughts but what gets me down a bit more is that there is no way I could end my life, I'd be too scared to do it! People say suicide is the coward's way out and that may be true, but I just could not do it. So, when thinking about this, I feel that my situation is not as bad as others who have felt there is no other way.

I'm approaching 60 (May next year) and it is scaring the life out of me. I have usually been OK with zero birthdays in years gone by but at 60, I'll only be 20 years away from 80 and it is just terrifying to think of. Life goes so quick. My health isn't great with my diabetes, and with my weight about 30-40 kgs more than it should be. Only way I can reverse my diabetes is to lose that weight but I have been on so many diets over the years and my weight has gone up and down like a yo-yo, not sure I can handle another period of losing weight.

I'm finding it hard to converse with the younger generation as well, technology is passing me by and I feel that there is a lot I am missing. This doesn't bear well for my job as conversing with young people is the main focus! I am constantly being left downhearted about people not replying to my phone calls, texts or emails about job interviews and prospects and being ghosted - work colleagues and family sympathise but they don't quite get the feeling I have when this happens. I'd love to move jobs, but I have no real qualifications and who is going to take someone on in a new role at my age. There are other similar companies in my industry but what I am earning is much better than most people in these companies, doing the same job I do.

I am worried about my son who is in Year 8 at school and has absolutely zero interest in any of his subjects. I did not like school either but I did as I was told, went to Year 12 and completed. I have tried so many times to motivate my son (without scaring the hell out of him) about how important school is, but he just can't see it. He's in a good school, with good teachers but he is not finding any motivation anywhere. I'm worried that come Year 12 and the end of school, he is going to end up without a job or career.

I'm sure many others have these worries but I hope they are dealing with it better than me!

Please don't worry though, I am not going to do anything silly and I do feel a bit better having opened up a bit on here.

Thanks for sharing all that Chaddies. Im delighted you didnt listen to those dark thoughts earlier in your life.

I regret im not in a position to give you any deep advice about your young fella, my kids are 5 and 1, I’ve got a bit to go before I’m dealing with issues like that LOL. But I will say don’t give up on trying to guide your young fella either.
 
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Thanks for sharing all that Chaddies. Im delighted you didnt listen to those dark thoughts earlier in your life.

I regret im not in a position to give you any deep advice about your young fella, my kids are 5 and 1, I’ve got a bit to go before I’m dealing with issues like that LOL. But I will say don’t give up on trying to guide your young fella either.
Thanks mate, I certainly won't!
 
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Thanks mate, I certainly won't!
For what it's worth I was similar to your son. I was capable but unmotivated at school. I was passionate about music but didn't care to pursue a career in it.

I left school with no idea what I wanted to do. Felt pressured into uni so tried a degree and dropped out.

It wasn't till I was able to have a few years off, travelling/working different jobs that I found a pathway that interested me.

Main point is that school isn't the be all/end all. Especially in this generation, there are so many pathways into careers and experience/aptitude is counting for so much more than study. He'll find his way, but the path may be different to what you expect.
 
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For what it's worth I was similar to your son. I was capable but unmotivated at school. I was passionate about music but didn't care to pursue a career in it.

I left school with no idea what I wanted to do. Felt pressured into uni so tried a degree and dropped out.

It wasn't till I was able to have a few years off, travelling/working different jobs that I found a pathway that interested me.

Main point is that school isn't the be all/end all. Especially in this generation, there are so many pathways into careers and experience/aptitude is counting for so much more than study. He'll find his way, but the path may be different to what you expect.
Thanks mate, very true what you say. :)
 

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Thanks for posting CM. I'm really glad I live in this era, rather than 30,40 or 50 years ago when men's mental health or mental health in general was brushed aside. I know for sure it can feel embarrassing to admit you are struggling to cope and I have had times when I have had bad thoughts but what gets me down a bit more is that there is no way I could end my life, I'd be too scared to do it! People say suicide is the coward's way out and that may be true, but I just could not do it. So, when thinking about this, I feel that my situation is not as bad as others who have felt there is no other way.

I'm approaching 60 (May next year) and it is scaring the life out of me. I have usually been OK with zero birthdays in years gone by but at 60, I'll only be 20 years away from 80 and it is just terrifying to think of. Life goes so quick. My health isn't great with my diabetes, and with my weight about 30-40 kgs more than it should be. Only way I can reverse my diabetes is to lose that weight but I have been on so many diets over the years and my weight has gone up and down like a yo-yo, not sure I can handle another period of losing weight.

I'm finding it hard to converse with the younger generation as well, technology is passing me by and I feel that there is a lot I am missing. This doesn't bear well for my job as conversing with young people is the main focus! I am constantly being left downhearted about people not replying to my phone calls, texts or emails about job interviews and prospects and being ghosted - work colleagues and family sympathise but they don't quite get the feeling I have when this happens. I'd love to move jobs, but I have no real qualifications and who is going to take someone on in a new role at my age. There are other similar companies in my industry but what I am earning is much better than most people in these companies, doing the same job I do.

I am worried about my son who is in Year 8 at school and has absolutely zero interest in any of his subjects. I did not like school either but I did as I was told, went to Year 12 and completed. I have tried so many times to motivate my son (without scaring the hell out of him) about how important school is, but he just can't see it. He's in a good school, with good teachers but he is not finding any motivation anywhere. I'm worried that come Year 12 and the end of school, he is going to end up without a job or career.

I'm sure many others have these worries but I hope they are dealing with it better than me!

Please don't worry though, I am not going to do anything silly and I do feel a bit better having opened up a bit on here.
Good on you for sharing, mate.
If you have a resume or just a rough list of roles and responsibilities feel free to PM me and I can help pull it together into a nice modern version for you. Toss in a link to a role you'd like to go for and I can do you a solid cover letter. I've got it all set up already as I did it for someone else, so don't think it's any bother or work on my side.
 

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I am worried about my son who is in Year 8 at school and has absolutely zero interest in any of his subjects. I did not like school either but I did as I was told, went to Year 12 and completed. I have tried so many times to motivate my son (without scaring the hell out of him) about how important school is, but he just can't see it. He's in a good school, with good teachers but he is not finding any motivation anywhere. I'm worried that come Year 12 and the end of school, he is going to end up without a job or career.

Yeah I didn't give a **** about school, did pretty much the bare minimum. I definitely found it difficult to concentrate which didn't help.
In particular 'studying' and exams didn't work well for me. Assignments I could work on in my own time and conditions I did much better on.

I'd probably worry more about whether his friends are good people than how much he is motivated by school. Especially in year 8.
I know at 60 year 8 to year 12 doesn't seem like a very long time but it's like 20% of his whole life by that point. Plenty of time for him to get his head around school, especially if he does see something he wants to work towards, or at least, if his friends by then are all expecting to study and go to uni. Or alternately if his friends are looking at apprenticeships he may be more inclined to move down that path.
I didn't like school and didn't know what to do after but most of my friends were looking at Uni and my parents 'expected' me to go so I just did what needed to be done to go.

If his friends are **** people he could still turn out fine, just more chance of issues.

I worked a casual job through uni and then just did that / travelled for a while afterwards. Didn't start my 'career' until 5 years after I finished Uni.

I'm finding it hard to converse with the younger generation as well, technology is passing me by and I feel that there is a lot I am missing. This doesn't bear well for my job as conversing with young people is the main focus! I am constantly being left downhearted about people not replying to my phone calls, texts or emails about job interviews and prospects and being ghosted - work colleagues and family sympathise but they don't quite get the feeling I have when this happens. I'd love to move jobs, but I have no real qualifications and who is going to take someone on in a new role at my age. There are other similar companies in my industry but what I am earning is much better than most people in these companies, doing the same job I do.
While I'm not quite having the hard to converse with the younger gen issue yet I definitely relate to the feeling of being downhearted when you're trying to give people an opportunity and they aren't giving it a shot.
I recommend trying to think about some of the success stories - they might not be the majority but they are impactful and important to those people. Other people have to find their own way, you tried to help.

I had a really good experience with someone last week - said what I helped him with has him smiling the most he has smiled all year - trudging through some garbage in other areas of my job (not literally...) so was nice to see my efforts appreciated by someone.
 
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Main point is that school isn't the be all/end all. Especially in this generation, there are so many pathways into careers and experience/aptitude is counting for so much more than study. He'll find his way, but the path may be different to what you expect.

This is what I told my 2.
Do your best but it’s not the be all and end all so if you bomb out there are always options.

They will find their way.

I got dragged across the country half way through yr 11 so rebelled and didn’t try to hard in my ATAR (Yr 12).

Things turned out for me in the end too.

Living at @SirChadley’s house in the backyard dog kennel….
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Thanks for posting CM. I'm really glad I live in this era, rather than 30,40 or 50 years ago when men's mental health or mental health in general was brushed aside. I know for sure it can feel embarrassing to admit you are struggling to cope and I have had times when I have had bad thoughts but what gets me down a bit more is that there is no way I could end my life, I'd be too scared to do it! People say suicide is the coward's way out and that may be true, but I just could not do it. So, when thinking about this, I feel that my situation is not as bad as others who have felt there is no other way.

I'm approaching 60 (May next year) and it is scaring the life out of me. I have usually been OK with zero birthdays in years gone by but at 60, I'll only be 20 years away from 80 and it is just terrifying to think of. Life goes so quick. My health isn't great with my diabetes, and with my weight about 30-40 kgs more than it should be. Only way I can reverse my diabetes is to lose that weight but I have been on so many diets over the years and my weight has gone up and down like a yo-yo, not sure I can handle another period of losing weight.

I'm finding it hard to converse with the younger generation as well, technology is passing me by and I feel that there is a lot I am missing. This doesn't bear well for my job as conversing with young people is the main focus! I am constantly being left downhearted about people not replying to my phone calls, texts or emails about job interviews and prospects and being ghosted - work colleagues and family sympathise but they don't quite get the feeling I have when this happens. I'd love to move jobs, but I have no real qualifications and who is going to take someone on in a new role at my age. There are other similar companies in my industry but what I am earning is much better than most people in these companies, doing the same job I do.

I am worried about my son who is in Year 8 at school and has absolutely zero interest in any of his subjects. I did not like school either but I did as I was told, went to Year 12 and completed. I have tried so many times to motivate my son (without scaring the hell out of him) about how important school is, but he just can't see it. He's in a good school, with good teachers but he is not finding any motivation anywhere. I'm worried that come Year 12 and the end of school, he is going to end up without a job or career.

I'm sure many others have these worries but I hope they are dealing with it better than me!

Please don't worry though, I am not going to do anything silly and I do feel a bit better having opened up a bit on here.

WOW Chad , what a brave , honest and moving post . LEGEND.
I haven't been opening all threads and Only opened this one today .
Believe it or not I am in your vintage .
Whilst I haven't much to offer in regards to technology ( as you know :) ) , diabetes or weight loss , I can offer what I feel.aided me in life .
It was about examining / adopting a buddist philosophy ( no need to change your religion ) as Buddism in reality isn't a religion , it's a pathway .
One main belief is that we create.our own heaven and hell in our actions and thoughts..
In this way everthing we experience is of our own creation ( our upbringing etc ) , thus there is nobody to blame for the trials , tribulations, joy and happiness we experience..
It alll goes round , but the good news is that our spirit is never destroyed and as we evolve in actions and deeds
the destination is to eventually become a buddah like Jesus .
My only advice to you is to enjoy this life and take GREAT comfort in the fact you are a GOOD man and are always trying to assist those who come into your path .
THUS ,setting you up for an even better incarnation next life .
Feel free to wrap me over the knuckles if I have accidentally offended you or any beliefs that you hold , it wasn't intended mate..
This was written on my phone , will see mistakes when I view on big screen - sorry for those in advance
 

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I am sure you already have it in the calendar but just a reminder that Sunday 19th November is International Men's Day .

You probably won't see it mentioned it the media as it is not about a boozy long lunch event with celebrities speeches .

The theme is “Healthy Men, Healthy World”.

The IMD 2023 theme – Healthy Men, Healthy World – will help shine a spotlight on the issue of men and boys’ health with the help of four sub-themes:

  • Take action, stay healthy!
  • Check in on a mate!
  • Improving male health together!
  • Healthy male role models!
Unfortunately we won't see any great government funded media campaign .

Maybe at least " Check in on a mate " on the 19th .
 

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Interesting listen by NRL Physio with Jackson Hastings
Some interesting stuff about his injuries (notably his two hip drops but some other stuff too) but also touches well on mental health.

Good to hear high profile footy players using decent platforms like this to promote men’s mental health

(Jackson was on Bloke in a Bar recently too and spoke more about his footy journey and not really about mental health or anything but was interesting to hear about his father - I didn’t know who his father was)
 
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WOW Chad , what a brave , honest and moving post . LEGEND.
I haven't been opening all threads and Only opened this one today .
Believe it or not I am in your vintage .
Whilst I haven't much to offer in regards to technology ( as you know :) ) , diabetes or weight loss , I can offer what I feel.aided me in life .
It was about examining / adopting a buddist philosophy ( no need to change your religion ) as Buddism in reality isn't a religion , it's a pathway .
One main belief is that we create.our own heaven and hell in our actions and thoughts..
In this way everthing we experience is of our own creation ( our upbringing etc ) , thus there is nobody to blame for the trials , tribulations, joy and happiness we experience..
It alll goes round , but the good news is that our spirit is never destroyed and as we evolve in actions and deeds
the destination is to eventually become a buddah like Jesus .
My only advice to you is to enjoy this life and take GREAT comfort in the fact you are a GOOD man and are always trying to assist those who come into your path .
THUS ,setting you up for an even better incarnation next life .
Feel free to wrap me over the knuckles if I have accidentally offended you or any beliefs that you hold , it wasn't intended mate..
This was written on my phone , will see mistakes when I view on big screen - sorry for those in advance
Thanks for your response egg, not offended at all mate. 😊

I really appreciate your support and advice.
 
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