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Interesting , from the gun

Unfortunate about Capewell. he never made a spot his own.
He would have been handy but we just didn't have the resources to keep him.
Also, Teig Wilton would have gone to Souths had we kept him so I think we did the right thing.
I don't see Capewell getting better, whilst Wilton is one of the biggest prospects in the game
 
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burgess1978 said:
Mostly left edge coming through, but he has moved around a bit as needed for the Jets and in rep teams. Has played right edge, a bit in the centres and also in the middle.
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Cheers. What's his potential pathway? Is he as good as alluded to above? Appologies if this has been covered elsewhere.
 
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Proud Shark said:
Cheers. What's his potential pathway? Is he as good as alluded to above? Appologies if this has been covered elsewhere.
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It has but I don’t mind repeating it.. he’s considered one of the best prospects in the game right now. I think he’ll play NRL games this coming season when Wade is out for origin but not many. He’s still quite young so there is no need to rush him.

Obviously playing the same position as Wade is going to be a roadblock for him long term, so from a development PoV the team is going to have to find somewhere else for him to play. This could come down to whether the team wants the 13 to be an “extra prop” or a more mobile guy.

The other option long term is to move Wade to 13. I think that will happen eventually. A lot of the best teams this year had ball-playing guys in 13... and the NRL is a copycat league. I think it’s possible by the end of the 2021 season people will start considering the 13 a spine position. Watch Cam Smith play when someone else is playing hooker and you’ll see what I mean.
 
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burgess1978 said:
It has but I don’t mind repeating it.. he’s considered one of the best prospects in the game right now. I think he’ll play NRL games this coming season when Wade is out for origin but not many. He’s still quite young so there is no need to rush him.

Obviously playing the same position as Wade is going to be a roadblock for him long term, so from a development PoV the team is going to have to find somewhere else for him to play. This could come down to whether the team wants the 13 to be an “extra prop” or a more mobile guy.

The other option long term is to move Wade to 13. I think that will happen eventually. A lot of the best teams this year had ball-playing guys in 13... and the NRL is a copycat league. I think it’s possible by the end of the 2021 season people will start considering the 13 a spine position. Watch Cam Smith play when someone else is playing hooker and you’ll see what I mean.
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I said that'd happen back when Greg Bird was our #13. Couldn't have been more wrong with the age of "lock is a 3rd prop" just around the corner.
 
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burgess1978 said:
It has but I don’t mind repeating it.. he’s considered one of the best prospects in the game right now. I think he’ll play NRL games this coming season when Wade is out for origin but not many. He’s still quite young so there is no need to rush him.

Obviously playing the same position as Wade is going to be a roadblock for him long term, so from a development PoV the team is going to have to find somewhere else for him to play. This could come down to whether the team wants the 13 to be an “extra prop” or a more mobile guy.

The other option long term is to move Wade to 13. I think that will happen eventually. A lot of the best teams this year had ball-playing guys in 13... and the NRL is a copycat league. I think it’s possible by the end of the 2021 season people will start considering the 13 a spine position. Watch Cam Smith play when someone else is playing hooker and you’ll see what I mean.
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Cheers mate. Will be interesting to see how our next gen forward pack shapes up. Seems we have plenty of options.
 
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Capital_Shark said:
I said that'd happen back when Greg Bird was our #13. Couldn't have been more wrong with the age of "lock is a 3rd prop" just around the corner.
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That was near peak grind. Now we have reduced interchange and faster games so it is more likely again.
 
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That was near peak grind. Now we have reduced interchange and faster games so it is more likely again.
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Do you reckon games are faster though? The amount of stoppages now is ridiculous.

I'd love to see some stats on minutes per game the ball is in play.
 
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HaroldBishop said:
Do you reckon games are faster though? The amount of stoppages now is ridiculous.

I'd love to see some stats on minutes per game the ball is in play.
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We are talking about two different things. The game is strategically faster and less grindy. More tackle busts, line breaks, less up and in defence, less wrestle, less tries from kicks, etc.

Stoppages is different. Also the changes to speed lead to fatigue which leads to things slowing down a little at the end of games. But the game has definitely changed to require more mobility.
 
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Mark^Bastard said:
We are talking about two different things. The game is strategically faster and less grindy. More tackle busts, line breaks, less up and in defence, less wrestle, less tries from kicks, etc.

Stoppages is different. Also the changes to speed lead to fatigue which leads to things slowing down a little at the end of games. But the game has definitely changed to require more mobility.
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Yeah understood where you were coming from but even with the reduced interchange I think players get more rest now than ever. Watch a game on fox from years ago and it's ridiculous how much dead time there is now.

I think that helps enormously with the game being faster, when it's actually being played.
 
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HaroldBishop said:
Do you reckon games are faster though? The amount of stoppages now is ridiculous.

I'd love to see some stats on minutes per game the ball is in play.
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I would like to see that too. You’d need a comparison against older games though. It’s not a great sample size but I reckon if you compared the 2019 GF vs the 1994 GF the ball would have been in play an extra 10+ minutes per game, there would have been 10+ minutes less “time off” called, and half time would have been half as long.

Scrums were quick. Kicks for touch were also taken quickly. Teams could still get away with wasting some time of dropouts, but nowhere near as much.

As you alluded to - one of the reasons guys can play faster now is because they get so much more rest than they used to.
 
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I would say that it used to take way more out of a team to defend so when you had the ball you didn't want to waste time. I don't know why but it seems now that it isn't the case. Hence the deliberate penalties given away. The idea of defending back to back sets on a goal line used to be heroic but now it is expected. Maybe the 7 tackle set rule leads to less grubbers?
 
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I heard he was signed with Dragons until they backed out once Merrin decided to come back. His only choice after that was Panthers.
 
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