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John Mannah tells coach Ricky Stuart he has beaten cancer - The Australian
John Mannah tells coach Ricky Stuart he has beaten cancer
STUART HONEYSETT
February 24, 2010 12:00AM
IT was the phone call Ricky Stuart had been waiting for.
On the other end of the line was rookie Cronulla prop John Mannah calling to tell the Sharks coach he had beaten cancer.
Although he still has two treatment sessions to go, Mannah is officially in remission and expected back at training in eight weeks with a view to playing in the NRL this season.
"It was great news when he rang me to tell me he was in remission," Stuart said. "He's got a beautiful family, he's a really tough kid and what he's had to go through over the last number of months would be horrific.
"Not knowing the extent of it, not knowing what was going to be the result at the end of the day would have been harrowing for him. He has shown immense mental strength."
Mannah's career was put on hold when a routine scan for a nagging back problem last year discovered a "hot spot" -- a doctor's term for a cancer warning sign.
Since being diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma he has undergone chemotherapy treatment which left him battling nausea and constant headaches.
Cronulla lock Paul Gallen said he was looking forward to the prospect of packing down alongside Mannah again in the forwards before the end of the season.
"Johnny has been coming down here when he can," Gallen said.
"He's still big, I don't know how much weight he has lost, but he still looks fit and he's still big and strong.
"That's great news for him and his family and when you talk about stuff like that footy, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't matter.
"It takes a back seat to your health and I wish him and his family all the best and I'd love to see him back here playing."
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Source:http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=...631762&usg=AFQjCNE-N0_GFJ70Zp5gpwVDzIs3j__BEg
John Mannah tells coach Ricky Stuart he has beaten cancer
STUART HONEYSETT
February 24, 2010 12:00AM
IT was the phone call Ricky Stuart had been waiting for.
On the other end of the line was rookie Cronulla prop John Mannah calling to tell the Sharks coach he had beaten cancer.
Although he still has two treatment sessions to go, Mannah is officially in remission and expected back at training in eight weeks with a view to playing in the NRL this season.
"It was great news when he rang me to tell me he was in remission," Stuart said. "He's got a beautiful family, he's a really tough kid and what he's had to go through over the last number of months would be horrific.
"Not knowing the extent of it, not knowing what was going to be the result at the end of the day would have been harrowing for him. He has shown immense mental strength."
Mannah's career was put on hold when a routine scan for a nagging back problem last year discovered a "hot spot" -- a doctor's term for a cancer warning sign.
Since being diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma he has undergone chemotherapy treatment which left him battling nausea and constant headaches.
Cronulla lock Paul Gallen said he was looking forward to the prospect of packing down alongside Mannah again in the forwards before the end of the season.
"Johnny has been coming down here when he can," Gallen said.
"He's still big, I don't know how much weight he has lost, but he still looks fit and he's still big and strong.
"That's great news for him and his family and when you talk about stuff like that footy, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't matter.
"It takes a back seat to your health and I wish him and his family all the best and I'd love to see him back here playing."
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Source:http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=...631762&usg=AFQjCNE-N0_GFJ70Zp5gpwVDzIs3j__BEg
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Minor miracles to the Mannah born
Minor miracles to the Mannah born
BY BRAD FORREST
25 Feb, 2010 04:00 AM
Cronulla Sharks could easily have dispensed with their 2009 recruit.
Simplifying it financially, Johnny Mannah had cancer, his future was in grave doubt and he was taking up part of the club's salary cap.
Instead, the Sharks shared the same hopes and emotions of their sick prop forward: that one day he would recover, even play again.
Now, less than six months after doctors discovered lymphoma in the first grade forward's troubled back, Mannah is riding a bike and running a treadmill and preparing to get back on the footy field.
Mannah means a lot to the club.
When Sharks CEO Richard Fisk announced new major sponsor, international electronics company Hisense Australia, to the media on Tuesday, his first reference was to ``Johnny Mannah now in remission''.
Far from being miffed at his company not receiving first mention, Hisense Australia managing director Kevin Ke nodded approvingly.
Fisk later revealed Mannah, now 20, was just as important, on the sidelines, as any other Shark in the club's salary cap.
"The new Sharks are all about togetherness ... we were always going to look after Johnny,'' he said.
The younger brother of Parramatta prop Tim Mannah said the past six months had been "just as tough'' for his family, even if they didn't experience all the headaches and general sickness associated with chemotherapy treatment. ``But since I was told the news [remission]
I've been feeling very strong,'' he said from home. "I've got a few more treatments and I hope to be back in full training in six to eight weeks.
"Ricky and the club have been fantastic, keeping me on their books and looking after me. Now, I just want to have the chance to repay them, by playing.''
He had one more surprise, too. "Through all the treatment, I haven't lost any weight.
"Actually I've put on a couple of kilos on my playing weight of 108kg.''
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Back on his bike: Sharks forward Johnny Mannah on is training bike yesterday at his Condell Park home. Picture: Jane Dyson
Minor miracles to the Mannah born
BY BRAD FORREST
25 Feb, 2010 04:00 AM
Cronulla Sharks could easily have dispensed with their 2009 recruit.
Simplifying it financially, Johnny Mannah had cancer, his future was in grave doubt and he was taking up part of the club's salary cap.
Instead, the Sharks shared the same hopes and emotions of their sick prop forward: that one day he would recover, even play again.
Now, less than six months after doctors discovered lymphoma in the first grade forward's troubled back, Mannah is riding a bike and running a treadmill and preparing to get back on the footy field.
Mannah means a lot to the club.
When Sharks CEO Richard Fisk announced new major sponsor, international electronics company Hisense Australia, to the media on Tuesday, his first reference was to ``Johnny Mannah now in remission''.
Far from being miffed at his company not receiving first mention, Hisense Australia managing director Kevin Ke nodded approvingly.
Fisk later revealed Mannah, now 20, was just as important, on the sidelines, as any other Shark in the club's salary cap.
"The new Sharks are all about togetherness ... we were always going to look after Johnny,'' he said.
The younger brother of Parramatta prop Tim Mannah said the past six months had been "just as tough'' for his family, even if they didn't experience all the headaches and general sickness associated with chemotherapy treatment. ``But since I was told the news [remission]
I've been feeling very strong,'' he said from home. "I've got a few more treatments and I hope to be back in full training in six to eight weeks.
"Ricky and the club have been fantastic, keeping me on their books and looking after me. Now, I just want to have the chance to repay them, by playing.''
He had one more surprise, too. "Through all the treatment, I haven't lost any weight.
"Actually I've put on a couple of kilos on my playing weight of 108kg.''
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Back on his bike: Sharks forward Johnny Mannah on is training bike yesterday at his Condell Park home. Picture: Jane Dyson
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U little Beauty!!!, I cant wait to see his return, I hope it is a CH9 televised game
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NRL told Sharks sack cancer victim (Daily Telegraph)
BEFORE Christmas last year, the Sharks spoke with NRL salary cap boss Ian Schubert about how to deal with John Mannah.
Source:http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rs...2049,26815583-5001023,00.html?from=public_rss
NRL said Sharks' cancer victim John Mannah should be cut from the club
By Ricky Stuart
March 07, 2010 12:00AM
BEFORE Christmas last year, the Sharks spoke with NRL salary cap boss Ian Schubert about how to deal with John Mannah.
Everybody knows the John Mannah situation. Many of us draw great hope from it.
Here is a young man, just 20, diagnosed last year with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
He immediately stopped playing and began chemotherapy, which left him battling nausea and headaches, and he promised he would beat his cancer and return to his career in the NRL.
As a club, we told him that we would be there for whatever he needed. Back in the real world, though, it also left us with a problem - as a club.
With no telling when Johnny would be back, it meant we would be starting the season a man down on our 25-man roster, with Johnny's contract money also counting against our salary cap.
So we contacted the NRL to discuss a possible solution.
How could we fit in a player without exceeding our salary cap?
Schubert told us there was only one way we could retrieve the roster spot and free up some money under the cap.
Sack John Mannah.
He wasn't comfortable with the answer himself, but was certain that under current NRL rules that was the only option available to us.
It hardly makes sense.
As a club, we give thousands of dollars to charities every year, to causes like the McGrath Foundation and others. Our players support all manner of functions, as often as they can, through donations and personal appearances.
Yet when one of our own is struck down, and the club stands by him through the fight, the only way we can continue to compete under even terms is to sack that player.
I will not sack Johnny.
I believe it is important, among other things, that he has a goal to get through his treatment, which is to return to play football with the Sharks. I know it gets him through the tough times.
Which means some of you might be wondering why I am going down this track at all.
What's the big deal? Why not just wait until he comes back?
The answer is simple.
Injuries are one of the critical factors that determine the success of your season.
Every club has a 25-man roster who must fall inside the salary cap. Yet the truth is almost every club has to use more than 25 players to survive a season, and the clubs that use the least amount are generally the more successful.
Melbourne, Manly, Melbourne, Brisbane, Wests Tigers ... they all had light runs with injury the year they won their premierships. Every season we all accept it is one of those variables that have to go our way if we are to be successful.
It only makes sense.
The salary cap is levelling competition to such an extent that the moment you are down a player or two from full strength you are at a distinct disadvantage to a full-strength rival.
We all get injuries in our clubs, but if you can suffer fewer injuries than your opponent you stand a better chance of winning.
So when you lose a player, it is critical.
Last year we lost Ben Ross and Brett Kearney out for the season after one game, and the cost was dramatic.
Already the Roosters have lost Anthony Cherrington for this entire season, before he has played even one competition game. It's why, as a coach, you have your heart in your mouth when your players play in such games as the recent Indigenous All Stars game.
Or even when they play in State of Origin.
For some reason you tend to accept it better when a player is lost while playing for your team, as opposed to a rep game or a promotional game.
Yet even if a player is lost there, the clubs get no compensation in terms of salary cap concessions or a roster spot. Under the current rules, the only way clubs can bypass this disadvantage is by sacking the player.
The NRL needs to implement an "injured reserve" list similar to that in America's NFL and NHL.
Those leagues understand how much injuries affect your season.
Under NFL rules, if a player is injured for the season, like Cherrington or Mannah, they are put on injured reserve.
It means they are unable to play for the remainder of the season (which stops the "miracle" comeback making a mockery of the system), but they still receive full pay and their roster spot is there for them when they are ready to return.
Yet it allows their teams to go out and replace them on the roster so they are not playing at a disadvantage to rival teams for the rest of the season.
In the NRL at the moment, a couple of season-long injuries to regular first-graders can effectively end your finals chances right there, even if the competition is only two weeks old.
In fact, more so.
You simply don't have the depth to get through the rest of the season.
Of course, we need a cut-off date - say, June 30 - when injured players are no longer able to be replaced. This would stop clubs stocking up on fresh talent right before the finals.
I have ideas on how to make it work but that is a conversation for later with David Gallop.
But it is time we recognise the strength of the salary cap and the drastic restrictions it puts on your chances when season-ending injuries or illness affect your players.
There is no way we will sack Johnny Mannah.
He is important to our club, and right now we are important to him.
The same as Anthony Cherrington is to the Roosters, or whoever else might be ruled out for the season when we kick off next weekend.
But the price for loyalty shouldn't come at the cost of your season.
It's time, as a league, we caught up.
BEFORE Christmas last year, the Sharks spoke with NRL salary cap boss Ian Schubert about how to deal with John Mannah.
Source:http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rs...2049,26815583-5001023,00.html?from=public_rss
NRL said Sharks' cancer victim John Mannah should be cut from the club
By Ricky Stuart
March 07, 2010 12:00AM
BEFORE Christmas last year, the Sharks spoke with NRL salary cap boss Ian Schubert about how to deal with John Mannah.
Everybody knows the John Mannah situation. Many of us draw great hope from it.
Here is a young man, just 20, diagnosed last year with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
He immediately stopped playing and began chemotherapy, which left him battling nausea and headaches, and he promised he would beat his cancer and return to his career in the NRL.
As a club, we told him that we would be there for whatever he needed. Back in the real world, though, it also left us with a problem - as a club.
With no telling when Johnny would be back, it meant we would be starting the season a man down on our 25-man roster, with Johnny's contract money also counting against our salary cap.
So we contacted the NRL to discuss a possible solution.
How could we fit in a player without exceeding our salary cap?
Schubert told us there was only one way we could retrieve the roster spot and free up some money under the cap.
Sack John Mannah.
He wasn't comfortable with the answer himself, but was certain that under current NRL rules that was the only option available to us.
It hardly makes sense.
As a club, we give thousands of dollars to charities every year, to causes like the McGrath Foundation and others. Our players support all manner of functions, as often as they can, through donations and personal appearances.
Yet when one of our own is struck down, and the club stands by him through the fight, the only way we can continue to compete under even terms is to sack that player.
I will not sack Johnny.
I believe it is important, among other things, that he has a goal to get through his treatment, which is to return to play football with the Sharks. I know it gets him through the tough times.
Which means some of you might be wondering why I am going down this track at all.
What's the big deal? Why not just wait until he comes back?
The answer is simple.
Injuries are one of the critical factors that determine the success of your season.
Every club has a 25-man roster who must fall inside the salary cap. Yet the truth is almost every club has to use more than 25 players to survive a season, and the clubs that use the least amount are generally the more successful.
Melbourne, Manly, Melbourne, Brisbane, Wests Tigers ... they all had light runs with injury the year they won their premierships. Every season we all accept it is one of those variables that have to go our way if we are to be successful.
It only makes sense.
The salary cap is levelling competition to such an extent that the moment you are down a player or two from full strength you are at a distinct disadvantage to a full-strength rival.
We all get injuries in our clubs, but if you can suffer fewer injuries than your opponent you stand a better chance of winning.
So when you lose a player, it is critical.
Last year we lost Ben Ross and Brett Kearney out for the season after one game, and the cost was dramatic.
Already the Roosters have lost Anthony Cherrington for this entire season, before he has played even one competition game. It's why, as a coach, you have your heart in your mouth when your players play in such games as the recent Indigenous All Stars game.
Or even when they play in State of Origin.
For some reason you tend to accept it better when a player is lost while playing for your team, as opposed to a rep game or a promotional game.
Yet even if a player is lost there, the clubs get no compensation in terms of salary cap concessions or a roster spot. Under the current rules, the only way clubs can bypass this disadvantage is by sacking the player.
The NRL needs to implement an "injured reserve" list similar to that in America's NFL and NHL.
Those leagues understand how much injuries affect your season.
Under NFL rules, if a player is injured for the season, like Cherrington or Mannah, they are put on injured reserve.
It means they are unable to play for the remainder of the season (which stops the "miracle" comeback making a mockery of the system), but they still receive full pay and their roster spot is there for them when they are ready to return.
Yet it allows their teams to go out and replace them on the roster so they are not playing at a disadvantage to rival teams for the rest of the season.
In the NRL at the moment, a couple of season-long injuries to regular first-graders can effectively end your finals chances right there, even if the competition is only two weeks old.
In fact, more so.
You simply don't have the depth to get through the rest of the season.
Of course, we need a cut-off date - say, June 30 - when injured players are no longer able to be replaced. This would stop clubs stocking up on fresh talent right before the finals.
I have ideas on how to make it work but that is a conversation for later with David Gallop.
But it is time we recognise the strength of the salary cap and the drastic restrictions it puts on your chances when season-ending injuries or illness affect your players.
There is no way we will sack Johnny Mannah.
He is important to our club, and right now we are important to him.
The same as Anthony Cherrington is to the Roosters, or whoever else might be ruled out for the season when we kick off next weekend.
But the price for loyalty shouldn't come at the cost of your season.
It's time, as a league, we caught up.
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what a pack of wankers
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The NRL are a bunch of tools, bringin an independant commission NOW that will deal with the legitimate concerns of Clubs such as this one.
I wonder what their advice would have been if the same circumstances befell "poster boys" Jarryd Hayne or Jonathon Thurston. I will bet London to a brick they would have found a different solution. No such concerns when it's "just a Sharks player".
I wonder what their advice would have been if the same circumstances befell "poster boys" Jarryd Hayne or Jonathon Thurston. I will bet London to a brick they would have found a different solution. No such concerns when it's "just a Sharks player".
I think Ricky raises a great point when he says that the NRL teams and players help out charities and visit sick kids etc as much as they can, and they certainly raise the profile of things like McHappy Day etc. What I find disgusting is that when it happens to one of their own, the NRL see's turning it's back on that individual as the "only viable option". We need to find a balance between the almighty dollar/big business and realising that we are actually in the business of PEOPLE too! As Ricky points out, Mannah has needed the Club, but I would bet that the Club has needed Mannah and has drawn wonderful inspiration from his family and his personal courage to fight this illness.
I wonder where Mr Schubert will be working in six months time????
I wonder where Mr Schubert will be working in six months time????
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could have easily written a shorter article..same headline but different body that read: "PUCK YOU"..
disgusting from the NRL
disgusting from the NRL
its a pretty rotten call by the NRL.
the only way i could see around it where cronulla and mannah both win.
sack him, then pay him the same wage/salary as a trainer keep him fit all year then put him back in the top 25 next year. sad tho
pretty ****ed of the nrl to suggest sacking a man with cancer, i bet it would have been different if it was johns or thurston
the only way i could see around it where cronulla and mannah both win.
sack him, then pay him the same wage/salary as a trainer keep him fit all year then put him back in the top 25 next year. sad tho
pretty ****ed of the nrl to suggest sacking a man with cancer, i bet it would have been different if it was johns or thurston
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Na mate he is of Middle Eastern Decent, should be good for Cronulla to sign a few more members of the Arabic community, :glasses-cool:
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if anyone should be sacked its david gallop. he hates our club.and melbourne get what they want. i really hope we win on staurday. thats unfair, you cant sack him. if it was someone like GI or adam blair itd be: yeah sure, heck have another million dollars! i hate david gallop and the NRL board, its good that we wont sack him. good on sticky for doing that, thatll help his case if his job gets on the line.
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Ricky Stuart apologises to NRL boss - NRL.COM
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Ricky Stuart apologises to NRL boss
By David Beniuk
07 Mar 2010 19:16:17
NRL boss David Gallop says Ricky Stuart has called him to apologise over a newspaper column written by the Cronulla coach.
The call came after Stuart used his News Limited column to criticise the way the league's salary cap affects clubs with players who have suffered long-term injuries.
Stuart used Sharks prop John Mannah's battle with Hodgkin's lymphoma as an example and called for the introduction of an injured reserve list similar to those in US leagues the NFL and NHL.
Under that system, players who suffer season-ending injuries can be replaced on a club's roster.
Stuart claimed the NRL salary cap meant the only way a player like Mannah could be replaced would be if the injured or ill player was sacked.
"Ricky rang me to apologise for any implied criticism of (salary cap auditor) Ian Schubert," Gallop told AAP on Sunday.
"The fact is the Sharks are hopeful that John will be back on the field and on that basis the salary cap auditor has made no decision."
Gallop defended the cap's concessions for long-term injuries.
"We already have an allowance for long-term injuries which may be available to the Sharks if John doesn't recover, but we're all hopeful that he will," Gallop said.
"The salary cap is already measured on a top 25 (players) rather than a top 17 and there are a number of rules for bringing up second tier players when there is injury.
"I'm happy to sit down and discuss any ideas with Ricky. We agreed that when he rang me this morning."
Source:http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=...t.aspx&usg=AFQjCNF8mIROzaK_KENUdfTQMJ0WELdcSA
Ricky Stuart apologises to NRL boss
By David Beniuk
07 Mar 2010 19:16:17
NRL boss David Gallop says Ricky Stuart has called him to apologise over a newspaper column written by the Cronulla coach.
The call came after Stuart used his News Limited column to criticise the way the league's salary cap affects clubs with players who have suffered long-term injuries.
Stuart used Sharks prop John Mannah's battle with Hodgkin's lymphoma as an example and called for the introduction of an injured reserve list similar to those in US leagues the NFL and NHL.
Under that system, players who suffer season-ending injuries can be replaced on a club's roster.
Stuart claimed the NRL salary cap meant the only way a player like Mannah could be replaced would be if the injured or ill player was sacked.
"Ricky rang me to apologise for any implied criticism of (salary cap auditor) Ian Schubert," Gallop told AAP on Sunday.
"The fact is the Sharks are hopeful that John will be back on the field and on that basis the salary cap auditor has made no decision."
Gallop defended the cap's concessions for long-term injuries.
"We already have an allowance for long-term injuries which may be available to the Sharks if John doesn't recover, but we're all hopeful that he will," Gallop said.
"The salary cap is already measured on a top 25 (players) rather than a top 17 and there are a number of rules for bringing up second tier players when there is injury.
"I'm happy to sit down and discuss any ideas with Ricky. We agreed that when he rang me this morning."
I believe there should be option for an exemption process available for when circumstances like this occur.
However, I'm not overly keen on a defined policy though... mainly because you know as soon as something like that exists, you're damn sure some pencil-necked lawyer is going to be looking for an exploit of it.
There should be the option for unusual situations to be looked at in a case-by-case manner (pardon the pun) but it should be understood that the option will only be offered or agreed to in very extraordinary situations such as the one with Johnny Mannah.
However, I'm not overly keen on a defined policy though... mainly because you know as soon as something like that exists, you're damn sure some pencil-necked lawyer is going to be looking for an exploit of it.
There should be the option for unusual situations to be looked at in a case-by-case manner (pardon the pun) but it should be understood that the option will only be offered or agreed to in very extraordinary situations such as the one with Johnny Mannah.
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It serves the Cronulla board right for bending over and copping up the arse from the NRL,
doing the right thing by sacking every player who did wrong, sacking our Capt, plus the bunch of fines that were dished out and leaving fowl tastes in the mouths of certain players,
Our fat men in suits are a bunchof suckups who hopefully now realize that the NRL couldn't give a **** our club or players.
doing the right thing by sacking every player who did wrong, sacking our Capt, plus the bunch of fines that were dished out and leaving fowl tastes in the mouths of certain players,
Our fat men in suits are a bunchof suckups who hopefully now realize that the NRL couldn't give a **** our club or players.