How does the NRL compare to other sports?

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The game itself is great to watch.
Even very low local games have talented young kids running around and it’s exciting!

However, the way it is run...
youve gotta crawl before you can walk let alone run.

And the admin strategy is more a sprint than a marathon long game.
a sprint they are ****house at.
 

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In a straight comparison from the NFL to the NRL, we have adopted a great number of the policies and procedures both short and long term viewe. However the interest from the NRL standpoint, for the most part, it's incredibly skewed in self serving rather than overall success.
 

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It still applies if you focus on the management of the codes, irrespective of revenue and capacity to generate revenue.

Definitely but greater revenue enables better quality management, in theory anyway.

The NRL is run by monkeys.
 

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Good post Burgess.

The difference with holding back salaries is in the US, where else will players go? They're in the biggest leagues in the world.

Doing that here would cause big issues imo.

I agree. I’m not advocating the “holding back” approach. I do agree with MB though in that clubs could be benefiting more.

It’s a tough balance though. The cap changes from last year mean that there is more professional rugby league players. We don’t want to take that money away. Take Todd Murphy as an example. He has never played an NRL game but he was earning $100k+ last year because he was in an NRL top 30 (top 26 in his case). We want to keep those players on the game. Having full time depth players strengenths the overall quality of playing rosters across the league and creates competition for spots within a club. If the league suddenly decided today that the cap was $500k less most teams would cut 4-5 Todd Murphy’s rather than taking that money proportionally from everyone. That’s an issue.
 

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NBA>>>NRL such a better product. From the media coverage to the way the game is run.

My passion for league has died since we won the comp. Still watch every Sharks game but couldnt give 2 trucks about the rest.
 

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Rugby Union in this country is in it's death throes, it's basically minutes from death, yet survives and still collects lucrative sponsorship because of how poorly the NRL is run.

NRL's stocks would rise if they took control of the media like the AFL, instead of constantly acting like a little bitch
 

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Thanks for the input so far guys.

I agree that we need to preserve the depth. I'm not sure that the situation where it's normal for marquees to get 7 figure yearly salaries is good, when there's other areas of the game doing it so tough. We're solved the issue with losing players to the ESL and Rugby but then gone a step too far past that.

Of the 16 teams, surely at the very least 50% should be profitable as a minimum target for the NRL, and that should be based on NRL funding not a club going so far away from their core concern (football) that they need to preoccupy themselves with clubs, developments etc. They should only need to do that for cream.
 

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Plenty of clubs big and small in international and domestic sports and competitions don't turn a profit.

Some of the big EPL clubs for instance with massive brands and endorsements have racked up debts that would make ours look like pocket change.

At it's core Rugby League is still a working class game with limited national or global appeal - it's become semi-professional though the ARL/NRL era's but head office is still trying to make it something it is not.

To MB's original point about NRL head office profits, well an argument could be made to dish out clubs a larger grant or slice of the pie to help their organisations be more viable in the short and long term but so many clubs have and continue to be run by old brigade self interested numpties that wouldn't even know how to cash a cheque, yet alone spend it.

There is self interest in other codes, global and domestic, ofcourse there is but the systems and leadership in place mitigate these challenges far better than the NRL who are over the barrel with broadcasters and the media.
 

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Yep, I am with Burgess on this one. Being an NHL follower, the NHL is a far superior product than the NRL. Only need to look at the live streaming service on offer form the NHL to see how far the NRL really is. The NHL admin, as was said, aren't fully liked and in some parts are softening the game a bit much. But with all that, it is a professionally run code, the NRL is amateur hour.
 

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NRL is what I support first but I wish I didn’t, it’s inept, starting with the out of control self destruction coming from the negative reporting in the media, if the NRL doesn’t come down harder on fox and nine for basically trashing the game every single chance they get (live during games no less) we might see a bit more positivity around the place.

I’m not calling for big brother like media control, but I’d be telling Nine to tell Gould to shut his mouth every time he disagrees with a refs call, these small changes could make big differences, A lot of smarter decision making, common sense **** like moving away from the big stadia strategy, coming up with a decent transfer alternative, and keeping every clubs financial dirty laundry out of the ****ing papers would make for a GREAT start.

No more rule changes or ref crackdowns (unless there permenant) either, back the refs to the hilt, stop second guessing everything they do till their so nervous about making a decision they end up embarrassing the game, like this last season.

I could keep going forever yeah so I’ll shut the **** up, to MB’s original point, I think the NRL is the worst ABC in the world and that includes some of the boxing codes.
 
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We need Someone who is actually in it to make it a better game and not just in it for themselves.
Someone with good business acumen and a hell of a lot more common sense than the current mob and their predecessors!
 

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IMHO the game itself is very marketable, however that game, the clubs and the players continuely shots themselves in the foot.
Until the game is run more professional In all areas, and stop attacking itself and self destructing, than we won’t be the best game in the country.
Should the game be professional, you’ll bring in more numbers in fans, the sponsorships, $$ and most of all greatness of the game will be shown in its glory
 

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Definitely had refreshed my memory since Johnson has signed but the NRL holistically are missing a chance at continual growth revenue by not having player names on the back of jersey's.

The NFL top jersey sales aren't dominated by teams, they're dominated by player. We would most likely see Johnson jersey's fly if they had such a product. Similar to Moylan, Holmes in the past etc etc.

Adds so much more value to a jersey than just a stock stand copy.
 

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Definitely had refreshed my memory since Johnson has signed but the NRL holistically are missing a chance at continual growth revenue by not having player names on the back of jersey's.

The NFL top jersey sales aren't dominated by teams, they're dominated by player. We would most likely see Johnson jersey's fly if they had such a product. Similar to Moylan, Holmes in the past etc etc.

Adds so much more value to a jersey than just a stock stand copy.

Does that work though with set numbers for positions? I don’t know much about NFL, but I’m under the impression you can wear whatever you want. Makes selling an individual jumper a lot easier... I mean, would a Dugan fan buy the FB, wing or centre jumper?
 

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Does that work though with set numbers for positions? I don’t know much about NFL, but I’m under the impression you can wear whatever you want. Makes selling an individual jumper a lot easier... I mean, would a Dugan fan buy the FB, wing or centre jumper?

They all have individual numbers; yes. Do I think it would be a deterrent to have players swap positions and subsequent numbers during the season? No. Johnson in the 6 or 7 when you buy the jersey, wgaf. Buy a Dugan in the centres, and he plays at fullback; wgaf.

It's for the name, the number is a distant second.
 

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Super League did this here in 1997.

I like it but some people are too ****ing stupid to work out where someone is playing without a set number.
 

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Yep, thought for awhile that it would be good to have the players name on the back. Regardless of position, it is a marketing possibility.
 

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Yep, thought for awhile that it would be good to have the players name on the back. Regardless of position, it is a marketing possibility.

Think of how many Johnson jersey's would be sold right now.
 
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Yep, thought for awhile that it would be good to have the players name on the back. Regardless of position, it is a marketing possibility.

I like the idea but it does take away sponsorship space so that’s something else to consider.
 
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