Fancy Stats for Sharks 2022 Season

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Jesse Colquhoun (Jets)

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His stats for the Jets are basically the same as Finucane's for the Sharks. Doesn't often make huge metres, but always plays big minutes. Unless he got injured he always played around 50+ minutes, and in 4 of the last 9 games he played a 40-minute half in the middle without a rest (and 38 in another one).

In that round 19 game (shown as his third best for attack) he also had 39 tackles in 51 minutes, and threw almost the same amount of passes as Dykes did. Kid's a keeper.
 

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Tom Hazelton (Jets)

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Likely the player with the most consistent usage. For most of the year Tom would be used for a 25 minute to start, come off, and then play a second stint soon after half time of 15-25. Didn't log the same consistently long stints as Jesse, but was similarly effective in different role.

Solid numbers.
 

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Oregon Kaufusi (Eels)

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Good impact. Typically played low minutes so you'd expect him to be effective. Most common usage was a 15-17 minute stint before half time, and then a shorter stint after half time - and then sometimes a really short one at the back end.

Really good numbers - but need to consider these in context around minutes played when comparing to other players.
 

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Tom Hazelton (Jets)

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Likely the player with the most consistent usage. For most of the year Tom would be used for a 25 minute to start, come off, and then play a second stint soon after half time of 15-25. Didn't log the same consistently long stints as Jesse, but was similarly effective in different role.

Solid numbers.
Comparing the two, would you think Colhoon or Hazelton is ahead in the pecking order?
 

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@BurgoShark (or any other learned colleague), do you know if there are many teams using big minute forwards? Front row especially?

I can't help but feel we're heavy on shorter minute players, but don't know if that's by design or just the cattle available
 

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Attack v Defence

This is the same data as the graph for each individual player, but I have zoomed in to show only the upper right box.

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Comparing the two, would you think Colhoon or Hazelton is ahead in the pecking order?
Colquhoun, but it depends on the role. Tom is probably the better pick if you need a 20 minute benchie. I think his one game last year was one of the highest output in any game last year.

Seems like Matterson loved both of them last year. They played way more than Pele or any of the Jets guy.
 

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@BurgoShark (or any other learned colleague), do you know if there are many teams using big minute forwards? Front row especially?

I can't help but feel we're heavy on shorter minute players, but don't know if that's by design or just the cattle available
Definitely Klemmer last year. He averaged about 60 each week I think. Obvious Haas. Also the Cowboys.

I think for the Sharks it was partly because of the guys they have on the book (Dale and Cam) but also the way they rotated other guys in. Those minutes were used by other guys like Wade, Teig, Tricky.

Fifita was definitely a low minute middle.
 

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Definitely Klemmer last year. He averaged about 60 each week I think. Obvious Haas. Also the Cowboys.

I think for the Sharks it was partly because of the guys they have on the book (Dale and Cam) but also the way they rotated other guys in. Those minutes were used by other guys like Wade, Teig, Tricky.

Fifita was definitely a low minute middle.
Feels like there's a movement away from big minute big boppers in general with only a few of them playing now. If that's the new way forward I guess we're in a pretty good place with our roster.

Hard to get past feeling like we need one though... But maybe that's me being old skool.
 

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Involvement v Minutes

This one maps involvement against the player's average minutes played.

This shows nicely the difference in roles that these guys will play. E.g. McInnes's output is about 5% less than Hunt's, but he plays almost twice as long on average.

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Kaufusi sits in a pretty nice spot in that graphic with extremely high involvement for okay minutes.
Obviously in a different system so not quite as comparable as the other guys.

Maybe scale could have been a bit better if McInnes is only down 20% on Hunt but looks like it is more like 50%?
 

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Kaufusi sits in a pretty nice spot in that graphic with extremely high involvement for okay minutes.
Obviously in a different system so not quite as comparable as the other guys.

Maybe scale could have been a bit better if McInnes is only down 20% on Hunt but looks like it is more like 50%?
Yeah - accidentally removed the scale on the Y Axis. Fixed,

Reference about McInnes v Hunt was actually attack only, and this graph shows combined - so I've fixed that reference too.

I would say Kaufusi played somewhat "sheltered" minutes. Only once all season did he play more than 23 minutes straight. He's young though, and as we know... all young players except Hiroti are capable of improvement.
 
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Yeah - accidentally removed the scale on the Y Axis. Fixed,

Reference about McInnes v Hunt was actually attack only, and this graph shows combined - so I've fixed that reference too.

I would say Kaufusi played somewhat "sheltered" minutes. Only once all season did he play more than 23 minutes straight. He's young though, and as we know... all young players except Hiroti are capable of improvement.
They had one of the best starting duos going around too which would have restricted his need for big minutes, and I can see him getting a similar bench role with us where he's likely to play a stint over half time
 

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They had one of the best starting duos going around too which would have restricted his need for big minutes, and I can see him getting a similar bench role with us where he's likely to play a stint over half time
Yeah. Not saying it is his fault. He did very well in the minutes he was given. There were just no Sharks players who had that role last year so it's very hard to compare him to anyone - except maybe Fifita.

Williams in 2021 was probably comparable in terms of his role playing 15-ish either side of half time and looking pretty good doing it. If you want to use that as a comparison...

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My ideal setup is 3 of these guys taking up 150 minutes.
- McInnes
- Finucane
- Rudolf
- Colquhoun

and 3 of these guys taking up 90.
- Hunt
- BHU
- Williams
- Kaufusi
- Hazelton


I reckon that's a good mix of impact v work rate, and it has guys in the roles they excel in. I'd like to see Colquhoun playing #13 consistently for the Jets while training there for the Sharks. Any short term injury to one of those top 3 he comes in rather than playing one of the other guys in a different role.

Just my preference though. Obviously throwing Jesse in to that role for big minutes before he is ready is not a great idea. I just like the look of him and the way he can use the ball a bit rather than just being a battering ram all the time.
 

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@BurgoShark (or any other learned colleague), do you know if there are many teams using big minute forwards? Front row especially?

I can't help but feel we're heavy on shorter minute players, but don't know if that's by design or just the cattle available
Did some work on this one @Sparkles.

Here are 9 of the 11 top middles as far as NRL.com "average metres" is concerned. I had to skip Klemmer (his profile has disappeared) and Matterson (he doesn't always play in the middle).

These are quick versions of the model which just use metres/minute and doesn't adjust for possession rates (Parra and Penrith guys probably show a bit high because those teams have the ball a LOT).

The graph looks VERY different to the Sharks graph. What it tells me is that your big-minute middles get through a mountain of work in attack, but are not as busy in defence. This makes sense from my PoV. If you have a big unit who you know will be out there for 60 minutes it is all about efficiency. Hold your position and make your tackles, travel when you need to, but otherwise stay in your lane. That's very different than how the Sharks middles play. On the Sharks you either have Hunt/BHU out there or everyone is playing lock :love:

Kaufusi compares well to that bunch in terms of output (but for less minutes).

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Did some work on this one @Sparkles.

Here are 9 of the 11 top middles as far as NRL.com "average metres" is concerned. I had to skip Klemmer (his profile has disappeared) and Matterson (he doesn't always play in the middle).

These are quick versions of the model which just use metres/minute and doesn't adjust for possession rates (Parra and Penrith guys probably show a bit high because those teams have the ball a LOT).

The graph looks VERY different to the Sharks graph. What it tells me is that your big-minute middles get through a mountain of work in attack, but are not as busy in attack. This makes sense from my PoV. If you have a big unit who you know will be out there for 60 minutes it is all about efficiency. Hold your position and make your tackles, travel when you need to, but otherwise stay in your lane. That's very different than how the Sharks middles play. On the Sharks you either have Hunt/BHU out there or everyone is playing lock :love:

Kaufusi compares well to that bunch in terms of output (but for less minutes).

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Well at least it makes sense to one of us
 
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