Official Cronulla Sharks Board + Management

Art Vandelay said:
its dead in the water. the money allocated in 2017 was rescinded

as to election promise money, personally i would hope the sharks are backing both horses in a two horse race
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I think woman’s change rooms could be going ahead we put$4 mil and so LNP.. I got an sms saying they’ll support with $$ if they
 
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CEO Update: Post AGM 2025

Welcome to the CEO Update following our AGM on Wednesday night and after the opening three rounds of the NRL season.
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Members in attendance at the AGM will have sensed my disappointment as to the progress of discussions between the Sharks and the Woolooware Bay Town Centre developers, and subsequently about the continued delays in the finalising of plans to begin the build and fit out of our Leagues Club.

As also mentioned on the night, while I would like to provide more detail as to what is holding up the process, legally we are bound by a confidentiality clause and at this point in time I cannot elaborate or provide further detail as to the challenges being faced.

I totally understood the frustration being felt by the Members at the AGM and we certainly share in those frustrations, however what I can say is that we are doing everything in our power to advance the process, while protecting our interests at the same time.

Our relationship with the developer is amicable and conversations are continuing every day. Realising an outcome that allows the Club to be built remains the priority for both parties.

As soon as there is something to report, we will immediately update our Members, and like you, we are hoping that will be sooner rather than later.
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Excitingly, NRL squad members Kade Dykes (knee), Toby Rudolf (shoulder) and Max Bradbury (knee) are also nearing comebacks, helping to offset the unfortunate long-term losses of Sione Katoa (shoulder surgery) and Liam Ison (ruptured ACL).
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What a ****ing shitshow this leagues club has become. The contractor should be sued by the club for loss of revenue once its completed.
 
Gumby said:
What a ****ing shitshow this leagues club has become. The contractor should be sued by the club for loss of revenue once its completed.
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For breaching what clause of the contract?

As frustrating as it is, believe me it isn't that easy.
 
apezza said:
For breaching what clause of the contract?

As frustrating as it is, believe me it isn't that easy.
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Every project must have an end date stipulated in the actual contract. Failure to complete the works by that date should then imply penalties to be paid by the contractor.

I’m in sales & project management - trust me, if I don’t have the project completed in the allotted timeframe it costs us a small fortune in fines & fees.

The contractor is 3-4 years late on delivery, 100% the sharks could sue them.
 
Gumby said:
Every project must have an end date stipulated in the actual contract. Failure to complete the works by that date should then imply penalties to be paid by the contractor.

I’m in sales & project management - trust me, if I don’t have the project completed in the allotted timeframe it costs us a small fortune in fines & fees.

The contractor is 3-4 years late on delivery, 100% the sharks could sue them.
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Not sure this one would have had a global pandemic ****ing up the entire supply chain clause just for one point.
 
Proud Shark said:
Not sure this one would have had a global pandemic ****ing up the entire supply chain clause just for one point.
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NSW put the tools down for how long? Roughly 4 months. Supplies were still available. Builders were still able to operate after the nationwide lockdowns

You’re reaching sorry. There is no way this shouldn’t be completed by now.
 
Gumby said:
Every project must have an end date stipulated in the actual contract. Failure to complete the works by that date should then imply penalties to be paid by the contractor.

I’m in sales & project management - trust me, if I don’t have the project completed in the allotted timeframe it costs us a small fortune in fines & fees.

The contractor is 3-4 years late on delivery, 100% the sharks could sue them.
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Without going too much into it, the contractor isn't "handing over the club" so there is no dates to hold to. The club just happens to be in the middle of the rest of the works.

Trust me, if it was that simple it would have been done.

Let me try and put it this way. Let's say you owned a big block with an old house at the back you want to eventually renovate and move in to. However you were desperate to sell the rest of the block as you need the funds to survive.

I come along (when there aren't many buyers) and offer to buy your empty block under the proviso that you won't be able to access the old house at the back until I have finished building.

I get about 10% into the works then the world went to **** and the construction sector hit the wall bad. To this day it hasn't recovered.

I'm trying my best to stay a float and finish my house and you are desperate to start your Reno's.

If I go bust, you will get held up for years waiting for administrators to come in blah, blah, blah.

If I let you in when I haven't fully finished my works, I take the risk of something going wrong at the your house whilst I'm contractually responsible. I can't take that risk (nor will I be insured for).

Your contractor also can't get works insurance until I have finished in case I stuff something up.

That's the best way I can explain it to the best of my knowledge.
 
Gumby said:
NSW put the tools down for how long? Roughly 4 months. Supplies were still available. Builders were still able to operate after the nationwide lockdowns

You’re reaching sorry. There is no way this shouldn’t be completed by now.
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Sorry mate, but that's a very narrow look at what is happening in construction.

Builders to this day are still being wound up in record numbers.

Look at the current works at the Pyrmont Fish markets. The developer requires another $100 million (that's right) to pay subcontractors. And this project started after Covid. So all the pricing would have considered the initial post covid escalation.

(Sorry - I did typo with initial 800m - I meant 100)
 
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apezza said:
Without going too much into it, the contractor isn't "handing over the club" so there is no dates to hold to. The club just happens to be in the middle of the rest of the works.

Trust me, if it was that simple it would have been done.

Let me try and put it this way. Let's say you owned a big block with an old house at the back you want to eventually renovate and move in to. However you were desperate to sell the rest of the block as you need the funds to survive.

I come along (when there aren't many buyers) and offer to buy your empty block under the proviso that you won't be able to access the old house at the back until I have finished building.

I get about 10% into the works then the world went to **** and the construction sector hit the wall bad. To this day it hasn't recovered.

I'm trying my best to stay a float and finish my house and you are desperate to start your Reno's.

If I go bust, you will get held up for years waiting for administrators to come in blah, blah, blah.

If I let you in when I haven't fully finished my works, I take the risk of something going wrong at the your house whilst I'm contractually responsible. I can't take that risk (nor will I be insured for).

Your contractor also can't get works insurance until I have finished in case I stuff something up.

That's the best way I can explain it to the best of my knowledge.
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Wait so it's your fault?
 
Gumby said:
Every project must have an end date stipulated in the actual contract. Failure to complete the works by that date should then imply penalties to be paid by the contractor.

I’m in sales & project management - trust me, if I don’t have the project completed in the allotted timeframe it costs us a small fortune in fines & fees.

The contractor is 3-4 years late on delivery, 100% the sharks could sue them.
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You've forgotten about the Force majeure clause that is in all contracts. Can't sue a contractor that is not responsible for any delays.

The issue is, nobody on here knows which party can be capable of being sued....
 
Born&bred said:
You've forgotten about the Force majeure clause that is in all contracts. Can't sue a contractor that is not responsible for any delays.

The issue is, nobody on here knows which party can be capable of being sued....
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And....taking the risk of legal proceedings will grind everything to a halt.
 
Gumby said:
NSW put the tools down for how long? Roughly 4 months. Supplies were still available. Builders were still able to operate after the nationwide lockdowns

You’re reaching sorry. There is no way this shouldn’t be completed by now.
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Obviously weren't at the AGM .

No one is happy with the situation but the reality is being addressed by the club in a professional manner .

One think that is certain , sueing won't get us a club finished any quicker.
 
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