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I get the sentiment, but the Brailey deal isn't the same. First it is on 2/3 the cash. Causing less strain. Second its one of the positions with the least depth in talent across the league, compared to centres and fullbacks that are way easier to fill.
Not saying it is the same, was merely responding to Sparkles about clubs moving players on.
 

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That’s big boy money. Money like that will give him accountability. I think he will rise to it. Bit of confidence with team mates and structure, happy days
 

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Moylan got a contract extension so how did that not work out ?

Dugan well that's super coach Flanno not having a plan and panic buying when we lost Bird.

If you're comparing a 23 year old hooker who's making less to Dugan's contract well I think that's pretty silly.
You know what's funny .. Over both of their time at the Sharks Dugan is the one who added more value then Moylan did
 

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and a massive financial and cap commitment on our part for a kid that is pretty average at this point of time but I do feel he is more likely to improve from here on out than regress or stay the same. I can understand the confidence placed in him, Blayke gives off bit of a vibe that it won't be misplaced even if he hasn't performed consistently at NRL level yet.

he will be in arguably his best sharks squad yet with potentially the best coaching staff behind him

regardless I am glad we have McCinnes not just as backup but to put pressure on Blayke
Agree - calling it how it is. He has been average, needs to step up
 

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Little fella might need to get a competitive edge my nefarious means. Squirrel grips, eye pokes, joint-locking, maybe slather himself in foul smelling grease from the Toup Kitchen like James Graham used to do.Toup Kitchen grease, as worn by James Graham.jpg
 

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He will step up. The same words were written for Will last year and look where he is right now. I choose to think positive until he proves me otherwise.
 

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DT have edited their article.

I did see it say “upwards of $2.5 million” earlier today.

$525k does sound a lot better, hopefully we are calling it a bargain in 2 years time when he’s top 5 hooker under Fitz

Correct - Apologies can be sent via PM

It's standard fair for varying $ figures to be thrown around in the media after a player signs and/or new information comes to light.
I mean **** the media are still adjusting what money they think Chad Townsend is on

We don't really know what these figures consist of or are built up from (bonuses, 3rd party ect) which can also lead to variance or misunderstanding in the numbers reported

I think Brailey was in line to get a contract like this regardless of who our coach was

But if he was so keen to stay at the Sharks I just wonder if we would have got away with giving him like a 2 year deal and re access in a few seasons

If he turns out to be good it will appear a boss move from the club to lock him down for 4 extra seasons but if he doesn't we will look like turkeys and will struggle to move him on at full freight

He's young and all and seems resistant to injury so I get the length of the deal but he won't be young forever and we didn't hear much in the way of rumours of over clubs clamoring over each other to secure his services even considering the shortage of hookers on the market

In theory we should have him through some of his best years but he is the one that has to lift his game ultimately

I could go either way on this one
 

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Brailey always needed a long term deal. It was the smart thing to do to lock him up whilst entering his peak. Seems to be a good bloke and he is one of the best up and coming hookers in the game. People like to simply blow their load on someone who is already a big name. In the next couple of years we will look back on this signing and say how good it was to lock him up.
 

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I can think of better up and coming hookers around his age who are already displaying their quality, not waiting to show their promise and deliver on the hype
 

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I can think of better up and coming hookers around his age who are already displaying their quality, not waiting to show their promise and deliver on the hype
How many and how much better? And for how much?
 

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mahoney got the same deal and is 10x better

reece robson is better and would be half the price

harry grant is younger and better

simpkins from the tigers is probably on par
 

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mahoney got the same deal and is 10x better

reece robson is better and would be half the price

harry grant is younger and better

simpkins from the tigers is probably on par
Mahoney 10x is rather subjective (my polite way of calling BS). I'd agree he looks good in that sizzling side, but more like 1.7x better on raw ability. A few scoots from Blayke plus a 40/20 and you'll think there's nothing in it, and Blayke's shown he's capable. It's really up to Fitz to offer a gameplan that suits Blayke's skills and the rest of the team to lift.

Reece Robson looks pretty good... when he's able to get on the field, which was half of last season. A 23 yo with hamstring problems isn't making me that thirsty. He's managed 20 games in three seasons... Blayke's the same age and racked up 59 (and didn't miss one last year). Aaand he's signed until the end of 2024.

Harry - they're around the same age from what I can see. Harry's contract started in 2019.... Let's see what he gets offered when he's available again in 2023/4 (if he's not upgraded sooner). Unless the Chosen Ones trajectory changes, you can bet it'll be more like Cameron-cash than Blayke-bucks.

Simkins looks promising but he's played 9 games. Around half Blayke's money and a short contract would be sensible at this stage of his career (and he was upgraded with an extra two years from the Tigers).

This was all just as much to sense check myself. I still think it's okay to say Blayke bagged himself a good deal, but it's a pretty fair one looking at the options and his potential. Player prices are like house prices... he might be the best home on Hooker St, but there aren't that many good ones on the market.
 

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Mahoney 10x is rather subjective (my polite way of calling BS). I'd agree he looks good in that sizzling side, but more like 1.7x better on raw ability. A few scoots from Blayke plus a 40/20 and you'll think there's nothing in it, and Blayke's shown he's capable. It's really up to Fitz to offer a gameplan that suits Blayke's skills and the rest of the team to lift.
Who knows, it may even up at some stage, but Mahoney is miles ahead of Brayley right now.
 

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mahoney got the same deal and is 10x better

reece robson is better and would be half the price

harry grant is younger and better

simpkins from the tigers is probably on par
You forgot Starling from the Raiders - gun player
 

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Mahoney 10x is rather subjective (my polite way of calling BS). I'd agree he looks good in that sizzling side, but more like 1.7x better on raw ability. A few scoots from Blayke plus a 40/20 and you'll think there's nothing in it, and Blayke's shown he's capable. It's really up to Fitz to offer a gameplan that suits Blayke's skills and the rest of the team to lift.

Reece Robson looks pretty good... when he's able to get on the field, which was half of last season. A 23 yo with hamstring problems isn't making me that thirsty. He's managed 20 games in three seasons... Blayke's the same age and racked up 59 (and didn't miss one last year). Aaand he's signed until the end of 2024.

Harry - they're around the same age from what I can see. Harry's contract started in 2019.... Let's see what he gets offered when he's available again in 2023/4 (if he's not upgraded sooner). Unless the Chosen Ones trajectory changes, you can bet it'll be more like Cameron-cash than Blayke-bucks.

Simkins looks promising but he's played 9 games. Around half Blayke's money and a short contract would be sensible at this stage of his career (and he was upgraded with an extra two years from the Tigers).

This was all just as much to sense check myself. I still think it's okay to say Blayke bagged himself a good deal, but it's a pretty fair one looking at the options and his potential. Player prices are like house prices... he might be the best home on Hooker St, but there aren't that many good ones on the market.
Without Mahoney the eels get nowhere near their position on the table this year - he and Gutherson are their main players as inconsistent as Moses is
 

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simpkins from the tigers is probably on par
Besides Simpkins being a prop Simpkin can't even secure the tigers 9 jersey. I know he has some hype but I think they are a long way from 'on par'

Still think people are undervaluing the workload Blayke took on.

In 6 games of 75 mins plus Robson touched the ball average 80.2 times, Blayke season average was 118.3, nearly 50% more. Yeah sure in 2022 we could just ask McInnes to pick up the slack, but he has his own job to concentrate on. We want him to help the hooker not take on a third of their job because they aren't up to it.

I think if you can find half a dozen comparable guys who are a bit better and on a bit more, or a bit worse or a bit younger and awaiting an upgraded contract there is a pretty good argument for retaining the one we already have.
Seems smarter to give Blayke, who team are happy with, 525k than to try bribe Reece Robson to break his contract to come and maybe be nearly as good for a bit less money.
If the number is 600k plus that strikes me as a bit of an overspend but spine positions can have a bit of premium and may have been fighting off likes of Eels and some other clubs looking for a hooker upgrade.
 

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Besides Simpkins being a prop Simpkin can't even secure the tigers 9 jersey. I know he has some hype but I think they are a long way from 'on par'

Still think people are undervaluing the workload Blayke took on.

In 6 games of 75 mins plus Robson touched the ball average 80.2 times, Blayke season average was 118.3, nearly 50% more. Yeah sure in 2022 we could just ask McInnes to pick up the slack, but he has his own job to concentrate on. We want him to help the hooker not take on a third of their job because they aren't up to it.

I think if you can find half a dozen comparable guys who are a bit better and on a bit more, or a bit worse or a bit younger and awaiting an upgraded contract there is a pretty good argument for retaining the one we already have.
Seems smarter to give Blayke, who team are happy with, 525k than to try bribe Reece Robson to break his contract to come and maybe be nearly as good for a bit less money.
If the number is 600k plus that strikes me as a bit of an overspend but spine positions can have a bit of premium and may have been fighting off likes of Eels and some other clubs looking for a hooker upgrade.
I don't think we want him to touch the ball any less. I for one want him to touch the ball more in catch/pass situations and not have him do so much East/West running or dummy half play within 15m of the side-lines. Under Bomber he played this way in games where Graham did play but Townsend didn't - which wasn't any this year. Maybe 4-5 last year. Cowboys, Manly, Broncos and Titans games I think were a few.
 
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mahoney got the same deal and is 10x better

reece robson is better and would be half the price

harry grant is younger and better

simpkins from the tigers is probably on par
Which ones off contract and available?
 

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The announcement via Sharks website.

4 year extension, so another 5 years in all. Just in case that makes the 4-year whingers feel any better.

 
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