Official Andrew Fifita

[sharkyboy]

I know right crazy..

If only I was talking about blowing players, or how **** robbo is! I'd fit right in.

Or we can just bag out blokes going through some tough personal **** to be a tough guy

 

[A.Snowden]

I would hate to be a friend of yours going through hard times 99... Fair dinkum. It's people who have attitudes like yours that force blokes into hiding these feelings.

 

[19ninety9]

I didn't "bag out" Andrew Fifita, at least I didn't think I did.

I just put an opinion out there that Andrew Fifita has the best treatment for anything at his finger tips, than goes home at night in a car worth more than me, to a house and a wife and a child and a life that we all wish we had, so why, oh why, oh why feel sorry for him, or wish him well or donate any of your thought process whatsoever to his cause, when and here's my whole case.

He doesn't even know you exist.

He doesn't even care you exist

You are a paycheck to him, without us he doesn't get paid to do his job.

And to pop a cherry on there as well.. people that have nowhere near the privileges he has.. All around you.. Right now.. As I type this.. Are drowning. Think about it mate. All I'm asking

 

[19ninety9]

I would hate to be a friend of yours going through hard times 99... Fair dinkum. It's people who have attitudes like yours that force blokes into hiding these feelings.

Can of worms..

I'd do anything for my mates, and I mean anything, Andrew Fifita isn't my mate and nor is he yours.

 

[A.Snowden]

Can of worms..

I'd do anything for my mates, and I mean anything, Andrew Fifita isn't my mate and nor is he yours.

That suits me fine. I don't aspire to be Andrews mate. But I do wish him the best with whatever he is battling. It's a thing called unconditional compassion. I can be compassionate toward someone I don't know, simply because they are human. Just as I am. Their celebrity, social standing or financial situation doesn't come into play. It doesnt need too.

 

[19ninety9]

That suits me fine. I don't aspire to be Andrews mate. But I do wish him the best with whatever he is battling. It's a thing called unconditional compassion. I can be compassionate toward someone I don't know, simply because they are human. Just as I am. Their celebrity, social standing or financial situation doesn't come into play. It doesnt need too.

Direct that compassion into a worthy cause and you may just make a difference.

Andrew Fifita doesn't need it. Nor does any footballer or celebrity, they have everything they need and more to overcome absolutely anything, someone out there does need it and it's being wasted.

 

[Fozzym]

Direct that compassion into a worthy cause and you may just make a difference.

Andrew Fifita doesn't need it. Nor does any footballer or celebrity, they have everything they need and more to overcome absolutely anything, someone out there does need it and it's being wasted.

Let me get this straight. We shouldn't offer sympathy, empathy or compassion towards a fellow human because of their social standing, their wealth? Are you for real?

 

[19ninety9]

Let me get this straight. We shouldn't offer sympathy, empathy or compassion towards a fellow human because of their social standing, their wealth? Are you for real?

Imagine your on a boat in the ocean and all around you are people just keeping their head above water, and there's lot more than that drowning, what your doing is looking up at the man on the million pound yacht and going "poor bugger".

I am for real. You can continue worshipping the elite, I obviously can't crack this coconut.

 

[Fozzym]

Imagine your on a boat in the ocean and all around you are people just keeping their head above water, and there's lot more than that drowning, what your doing is looking up at the man on the million pound yacht and going "poor bugger".

I am for real. You can continue worshipping the elite, I obviously can't crack this coconut.

Sweet scenario, but you didn't answer my question.

 

[Thresher]

Imagine your on a boat in the ocean and all around you are people just keeping their head above water, and there's lot more than that drowning, what your doing is looking up at the man on the million pound yacht and going "poor bugger".

I am for real. You can continue worshipping the elite, I obviously can't crack this coconut.

What if there is a yacht monster out there? A monster that gobbles up yachts

 

[19ninety9]

What if there is a yacht monster out there? A monster that gobbles up yachts

Came to the wrong place to have an adult conversation

 

[Thresher]

Came to the wrong place to have an adult conversation

I was just using my imagination like you asked

 

[skeksis]

Common decency and empathy for human beings suggests that you express sadness at another human's unfortunate circumstances, even if they are privileged. Who are you to judge someone you don't know so harshly, simply because they have opportunities that others do not?

Forget all the cult-of-personality and hero-worship we have in the West around celebs and sports figures. As someone related to an athlete that reps this country, I can tell you that they are everyday human beings just like you and me. They might not know you individually, but they are aware of you as part of the wider support network of people that appreciate what they do. As humans like you and I, they are subject to the same misfortunes and illnesses that you and I get. Whether its the NRL, the A league or whatever, they have processes and networks in place to help athletes. But at the end of the day, when that athlete is in their home, they have to help themselves.

Fifita would be doing it tough - whatever his reason for being depressed, you're a ****ty person if you think he's undeserving of compassion - simply because he's a well-paid athlete. It's a job, just like any other (albeit a more high-profile job than most). Your job (and the things attached to it - your responsibilities, abuse from the public) should not be something that kills you. Yes, there are millions in less-fortunate circumstances in similar positions to Fifita. But by the same token, there are thousands dying in Africa every day. It's all about perspective.

Depression affects one in three Australians in their lifetime. It's a **** of an illness and while progress has been made it still carries social stigma. It's not Fifita's fault. Don't crucify the bloke.

 

[evertonshark]

Mods, can we sticky a thread (in the footy section of the forum too as I reckon a lot of people don't go into the non footy parts of the forum) about depression where we can maybe simply chat about depression and if we're feeling down etc.

After reading the last few pages its a topic that everyone on here takes seriously and rightly so, also I'll add to this some people may feel more comfortable chatting on here if they are feeling down than actually discussing with family or friends. Earlier in the year I lost my job less than 2 months after buying a new house, I was struggling to find another job and for a while things were getting fairly grim financially and to be honest I'd feel more comfortable discussing this sort of thing on here than with family and mates I've had for nearly 30 years.

 

[egg]

If 1999 a you're a lot older than 15 we wouldn't know it with the crap you dishing up in this thread . I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being young and immature but if your not young THEN you're sad excuse of a human being .
In you mind everyone else on this forum has completely lost it with their views . The REAL truth is that you're stubbornly delusional
Men in Australia generally don't run off to seek help until they are truly desperate OR even worse still don't seek help and take their lives . Rich or poor the money doesn't come into it .
You're a sad excuse of a human being and I have no time for you right now . Perhaps due to circumstances that you too became genuinely depressed or you lost a ( rich or poor ) mate , I'd perhaps THEN step up to the plate , as then you'd then know what it's all about.

 

[Blix]

If 1999 a you're a lot older than 15 we wouldn't know it with the crap you dishing up in this thread . I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being young and immature but if your not young THEN you're sad excuse of a human being .
In you mind everyone else on this forum has completely lost it with their views . The REAL truth is that you're stubbornly delusional
Men in Australia generally don't run off to seek help until they are truly desperate OR even worse still don't seek help and take their lives . Rich or poor the money doesn't come into it .
You're a sad excuse of a human being and I have no time for you right now . Perhaps due to circumstances that you too became genuinely depressed or you lost a ( rich or poor ) mate , I'd perhaps THEN step up to the plate , as then you'd then know what it's all about.

Well said man, the guy is a toe rag......I wonder if he can be kicked for being a c..k?

 

[DANGA HATCH]

Does anyone here consider because the NRL is dragging its heels on Flanno, that some of these young guys are missing out on the mentoring they require in this job? It is obvious that blokes like Fifita and Carney need to be led by a person they can relate to and trust. They have missed out on this for the past year now. They weren't here in 2011. WADA has said it is not going to challenge the sanctions so it's time the NRL allow us fans to reclaim our club. The longer the NRL drag their heels the more I worry about the mental well being of the young guys at our club. The more their well being suffers the more our well being will suffer.

I wish Fifita well and hope that he sorts himself out before 2015 because we need him to rip and tear. He needs his head coach and mentor back now!!!!!

 

[Long Suffering Sharkie]

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

But no-one deserves to be abused or mocked for having that said opinion.

In a world of media beat ups and celebrities/stars using whatever tools they can to excuse their bad behaviour, it is easy to be cynical about what is reported and for someone to state that they are more concerned about other injustices that exist in the world.

By the same token, depression issues have affected many people - both personally and through people they know who have suffered from it. Hence it can be a touchy subject.

Everyone has an opinion though and you will never convince everyone to see your perspective and agree with it.

So can we agree to disagree and not resort to personal abuse....?

 

[SHARKSTER]

Interesting read in here.

I don't agree with 19ninety9's take on it. I don't care if it's Robin Williams, Andrew Fitita or your average Joe blow, depression isn't about money, lifestyle or busted relationships. They may be triggers that intensify the illness but an illness it is and anyone who suffers this dibilitaing illness needs help to cope with its affects.

To suggest anyone suffering this deserves anything less than it being taken seriously and our hope for treatment that delivers coping skills, is simply being ill informed about the disease or just plain cruel.

 

[Busted Bongos]

Interesting read in here.

I don't agree with 19ninety9's take on it. I don't care if it's Robin Williams, Andrew Fitita or your average Joe blow, depression isn't about money, lifestyle or busted relationships. They may be triggers that intensify the illness but an illness it is and anyone who suffers this dibilitaing illness needs help to cope with its affects.

To suggest anyone suffering this deserves anything less than it being taken seriously and our hope for treatment that delivers coping skills, is simply being ill informed about the disease or just plain cruel.

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