Official Aaron Woods

[BurgoShark]

I have re-watched round 25 (stand by for a boring breakdown in the coming days - not for Woods). I rarely vote, but Aaron Woods got my 3 points in the 3-2-1 this week. I'm not sure why there was so much whinging about him in that game. He was easily the best player on the field for either team during his first stint.

 

[Jaz]

I have re-watched round 25 (stand by for a boring breakdown in the coming days - not for Woods). I rarely vote, but Aaron Woods got my 3 points in the 3-2-1 this week. I'm not sure why there was so much whinging about him in that game. He was easily the best player on the field for either team during his first stint.

His first stint was great. His first stint.

 

[BurgoShark]

His first stint was great. His first stint.

First stint (22 minutes) - best on park
Second stint (5 before half time) - very good
Third stint (12 minutes after half time) - equal with Williams as Sharks best forward defensively (Melbourne had the ball for 10 minutes straight)

The offside penalty is on Brailey for the original miss. Woods is at marker on the previous play and has to travel farther than any other player to get back. What should he have done? Let them score?

Woods and Williams were the only two forwards who didn't cost the team a try or a clean linebreak in defence during that 10 minutes.

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As for Trindall (who was lauded for his great game), that was probably the worst defensive performance from a Shark this year. Just awful. Brailey's showing in defence wasn't much better. Both of those players were great with ball in hand though.

 

[Thresher]

At last someone else has taken over the defending Aaron Woods thing.

 

[apezza]

First stint (22 minutes) - best on park
Second stint (5 before half time) - very good
Third stint (12 minutes after half time) - equal with Williams as Sharks best forward defensively (Melbourne had the ball for 10 minutes straight)

The offside penalty is on Brailey for the original miss. Woods is at marker on the previous play and has to travel farther than any other player to get back. What should he have done? Let them score?

Woods and Williams were the only two forwards who didn't cost the team a try or a clean linebreak in defence during that 10 minutes.

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As for Trindall (who was lauded for his great game), that was probably the worst defensive performance from a Shark this year. Just awful. Brailey's showing in defence wasn't much better. Both of those players were great with ball in hand though.

Come on mate - you know that stats and actual game footage analysis don't paint the full picture of how bad a player is perceived to have played on this forum!

 

[Jaz]

First stint (22 minutes) - best on park
Second stint (5 before half time) - very good
Third stint (12 minutes after half time) - equal with Williams as Sharks best forward defensively (Melbourne had the ball for 10 minutes straight)

The offside penalty is on Brailey for the original miss. Woods is at marker on the previous play and has to travel farther than any other player to get back. What should he have done? Let them score?

Woods and Williams were the only two forwards who didn't cost the team a try or a clean linebreak in defence during that 10 minutes.

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As for Trindall (who was lauded for his great game), that was probably the worst defensive performance from a Shark this year. Just awful. Brailey's showing in defence wasn't much better. Both of those players were great with ball in hand though.

Appreciate the work as always.

I seem to remember Woods rolling off a player he'd tackled and taking both Brailey and himself out of play at marker. Am I remembering that right or no?

 

[bort]

Appreciate the work as always.

I seem to remember Woods rolling off a player he'd tackled and taking both Brailey and himself out of play at marker. Am I remembering that right or no?

You're remembering that how you saw it. You probably saw it how you wanted to see it not having a big opinion of Woods.

It leads to the second Storm try of second half if you want to watch it again.

 

[Thresher]

The Storm seemed to do similar to us a number times. Managed to tunnel and squirm their way to the other side of the tackle and leave one or two of us offside and ruled out of partaking in the next one.

 

[Wiz]

I have re-watched round 25 (stand by for a boring breakdown in the coming days - not for Woods). I rarely vote, but Aaron Woods got my 3 points in the 3-2-1 this week. I'm not sure why there was so much whinging about him in that game. He was easily the best player on the field for either team during his first stint.

So..

You give Woods THREE points for a good 22 minute period despite him dropping that form for the rest of the game yet you rip into Trindall and give him 0 points for bad reads in the first half despite him coming good in that regard in the second half and you admitting he was great with the ball that whole game ?

Lol

 

[bort]

So..

You give Woods THREE points for a good 22 minute period despite him dropping that form for the rest of the game yet you rip into Trindall and give him 0 points for bad reads in the first half despite him coming good in that regard in the second half and you admitting he was great with the ball that whole game ?

Lol

The rest of your argument aside if it is Woods job to play, shall we say 50 minutes and plays half of that very well and it is Trindalls job to play 80 mins and he plays half of that very well should the lesser amount of time be held against Woods? That's more of a general question.

Now to address the rest of your argument, specific to Woods Burgess said he played 22 minutes as best on park, 5 very good, and a further 12 where he was our equal best forward, so if you want to argue with Burgess about his assessment maybe don't ignore half of it so you can actually have a proper conversation. You even refer to what Burg said about Trindall in the post where he expanded on Woods so you have intentionally decided to ignore it.

Lol

 

[stormshark]

The thing I've said in other Posts, we were one Big Body short in that game. He probably had to play 10/15 mins more than advisable, to cover. Hunt or fifita really needed to be in the Team for a chance to match em.

 

[Thresher]

The thing I've said in other Posts, we were one Big Body short in that game. He probably had to play 10/15 mins more than advisable, to cover. Hunt or fifita really needed to be in the Team for a chance to match em.

I don't begrudge Hunt leaving camp for the birth of his child but I wondered whether he could have come back in time to be eligible for the final game.

 

[apezza]

The Storm seemed to do similar to us a number times. Managed to tunnel and squirm their way to the other side of the tackle and leave one or two of us offside and ruled out of partaking in the next one.

Yep and we are are like a bunch of turtles on our backs when they tackle us.

 

[apezza]

I don't begrudge Hunt leaving camp for the birth of his child but I wondered whether he could have come back in time to be eligible for the final game.

I think if he only spent a day or two with his new child then came straight back he may have been OK for last game after isolation etc.

I dont think that would have been worth it (taking my selfish supporter hat off). Let him spend the time with his family.

I'm more dirty at Dugan for totally giving up this year and going off the rails. Even if he got back to 80% form we could have used him in the back half of the competition.

 

[BurgoShark]

Appreciate the work as always.

I seem to remember Woods rolling off a player he'd tackled and taking both Brailey and himself out of play at marker. Am I remembering that right or no?

You're remembering that how you saw it. You probably saw it how you wanted to see it not having a big opinion of Woods.

It leads to the second Storm try of second half if you want to watch it again.

I watched this lead up 4-5 times earlier this week.

This particular type of play (defender rolling off) happens dozens of times in each game. The defence has systems to allow for and adjust to this.

Would I like to have Woods physically dominate NAS, get him on his back, and slow him down? Sure - but he doesn't - so the play there is for him to roll away and not give up a penalty/restart. The unfortunate thing there is that Brailey did it too, and they ended up with no markers.

Grant runs, Nikora reacts late and then falls for a dummy. The try is scored because 1) Nikora retreats with his back turned and isnt' ready, and 2) Uele doesn't move up and/or communicate with Nikora. If those two blokes do their job properly it is a 10m scoot for Grant and nothing more.

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Also, for Wizard's benefit. Trindall's defence was garbage in both halves. He was a liability.

 

[bort]

I watched this lead up 4-5 times earlier this week.

This particular type of play (defender rolling off) happens dozens of times in each game. The defence has systems to allow for and adjust to this.

Would I like to have Woods physically dominate NAS, get him on his back, and slow him down? Sure - but he doesn't - so the play there is for him to roll away and not give up a penalty/restart. The unfortunate thing there is that Brailey did it too, and they ended up with no markers.

The try is scored because 1) Nikora retreats with his back turned and 2) Uele doesn't move up. If those two blokes do their job properly it is a 10m scoot for Grant and nothing more.

I would go further than that, looks to me like Nikora and Brailey completely lose their tackle on NAS but Woods comes in and makes it. Then due to ending up basically in a one on one tackle NAS finds hands and knees and Woods isn't in a great position but in an attempt to join back into the tackle Brailey actually ends up pulling Woods away and off the tackle giving NAS a completely clean instant play the ball.

 

[BurgoShark]

I would go further than that, looks to me like Nikora and Brailey completely lose their tackle on NAS but Woods comes in and makes it. Then due to ending up basically in a one on one tackle NAS finds hands and knees and Woods isn't in a great position but in an attempt to join back into the tackle Brailey actually ends up pulling Woods away and off the tackle giving NAS a completely clean instant play the ball.

Yeah - agreed. It's so easy to look at that clip from when the ball is played and say "bloody useless Woods is laying around on his back and they run 60m to score".

Brailey's defence is a real issue. Big players are targeting him. It's frustrating, because he CAN tackle - but half the time instead of making proper should contact he's just meekly grabbing at them. It's embarrassing to watch small NRL players have good tackle technique coached out of them.

 

[BurgoShark]

At last someone else has taken over the defending Aaron Woods thing.

He has good games and bad games. This was a good one.

People have short memories. There were games in 2020 where he carried the team.

 

[Wiz]

The rest of your argument aside if it is Woods job to play, shall we say 50 minutes and plays half of that very well and it is Trindalls job to play 80 mins and he plays half of that very well should the lesser amount of time be held against Woods? That's more of a general question.

Now to address the rest of your argument, specific to Woods Burgess said he played 22 minutes as best on park, 5 very good, and a further 12 where he was our equal best forward, so if you want to argue with Burgess about his assessment maybe don't ignore half of it so you can actually have a proper conversation. You even refer to what Burg said about Trindall in the post where he expanded on Woods so you have intentionally decided to ignore it.

Lol

Reply to your own posts that you’ve gone MIA on champ, then and only then might I read your reply on someone else’s behalf. It’s cute though

 

[Wiz]

I watched this lead up 4-5 times earlier this week.

This particular type of play (defender rolling off) happens dozens of times in each game. The defence has systems to allow for and adjust to this.

Would I like to have Woods physically dominate NAS, get him on his back, and slow him down? Sure - but he doesn't - so the play there is for him to roll away and not give up a penalty/restart. The unfortunate thing there is that Brailey did it too, and they ended up with no markers.

Grant runs, Nikora reacts late and then falls for a dummy. The try is scored because 1) Nikora retreats with his back turned and isnt' ready, and 2) Uele doesn't move up and/or communicate with Nikora. If those two blokes do their job properly it is a 10m scoot for Grant and nothing more.

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Also, for Wizard's benefit. Trindall's defence was garbage in both halves. He was a liability.

More of a liability then Chad Townsend on Sam Walker ?