Match 2026 NRL Round 9 - Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs Wests Tigers. 4:05pm, Sunday 3 May @ Ocean Protect Stadium

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I always wonder with these ones. 3 guys in a tackle and the player offloads. Is that one ineffective tackle or three?

If the Tigers offloaded 6 times in the game and each time there were 2-3 guys in the tackle that can be addressed, but that's not "17 ineffective tackles". Sometimes a legs tackle where a guy offloads is also called "ineffective", which often is unfair on the defender.

Total errors can also be a bit of a "meh" stat. Lots of fingertips on aerial contests or guys playing hot potato on the last - or things that aren't even errors really.

Hynes deliberately running over the sideline on full time was recorded as an error.
(Can't remember if that was this game or an earlier one).
I asked AI, this is its reply.

An ineffective tackle in the NRL is a defensive action where a player initiates contact but fails to stop the ball carrier's momentum, allowing an offload, a line break, or significant extra meters. It is distinct from a missed tackle (no contact) and is often classified as a weak tackle where the attacker escapes or continues moving
 
Haha that's brutal
There are lots of things that get counted as errors that a coach wouldn't pin on the player or even consider a negative play.

Opposition kicks into the into goal and you bat it dead or touch in goal = error.
Opposition passes in to you (Toby vs the Roosters) = error
Run over sideline/dead ball line or deliberately throw the ball over the touch line to end the game when leading = error
Player trying to offload on the last tackle (result of error or being tackled is identical) = error

Also - spine players get off easy and wingers get boned with the way errors get counted. **** pass at the winger's toes = winger's fault.

I asked AI, this is its reply.

An ineffective tackle in the NRL is a defensive action where a player initiates contact but fails to stop the ball carrier's momentum, allowing an offload, a line break, or significant extra meters. It is distinct from a missed tackle (no contact) and is often classified as a weak tackle where the attacker escapes or continues moving
Yeah I understand, but when someone collates them together and says "17 ineffective tackles" does that mean there were 17 times where the Tigers did one of these things, or 17 times where an individual Sharks player was attributed a stat? Could be three guys getting a stat on the same offload. i.e. it's not as bad as "17" makes it sound.

Also as a player if really sucks to get attributed with a miss when you are around the legs and the dudes up top didn't wrap up the ball. I got flogged in fitness once for making 36 tackles and missing 4 (anyone with 10% or higher got a flogging. All of these were legs tackles where another player didn't wrap but the ball. From my point of view I missed 0 and a teammate let me down.

So 17 ineffective tackles sounds to me like there were a handful of times the Tigers offloaded or whatever, and sometimes a Shark was guilty of not wrapping up the ball and other times a stat monkey just gave someone else a stat even though they did their job.
 
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Some key stats from this game:

Sharks had 63% overall possession.
Sharks missed 25 tackles which is very concerning considering tigers barely had the ball.
Sharks had 17 ineffective tackles, tigers only had 10.
Sharks still had 13 errors overall.
Our average play the ball speed was slower than the tigers.
We gave up 25 tackle breaks where we only made 29 overall.

Yes, we won by plenty but those stats to me still say we have a lot to work on.
No surprise to be honest, most teams would've wiped the floor with that squad.
 
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