2022 NRL General discussion

CrazyMatt

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Fair points mate. We need a stable/financial club putting time and money in to this area, and the Dolphins can be that while still hovering mid-pack for a few years.

Having thought about it, I think the NRL should make a concession by funding all alcohol purchases for spectators at Dolphins Stadium in years 1-3.

I know which interstate away game I’ll be going to next season then. ;)
 

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Fair points mate. We need a stable/financial club putting time and money in to this area, and the Dolphins can be that while still hovering mid-pack for a few years.

Having thought about it, I think the NRL should make a concession by funding all alcohol purchases for spectators at Dolphins Stadium in years 1-3.
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That’s completely irrelevant to whether or not they had on field success in their first few years. You dont win games in the present with ‘history’. GWS were given an unfair leg up and the results showed themselves when they were carried into the Grand Final by their large number of high draft picks, players they wouldnt of signed if they had the same cap as everyone else and players acquired by trading those draft picks they shouldnt of had.

A new team doesnt have to be among the best in the league straight out the gate. Also if certain Redcliffe locals refuse to get behind the team because they dont have the patience to let the team find its feet then would you really want them as fans. I reckon most of the locals are going to back them no matter what so I think they’ll be fine in the rusted on fans department. They show patience they’ll be rewarded with their own homegrown stars that come through into the team in coming years.
How is having an existing club/team before that year irrelevant for a team? Came in handy for Penrith last season when they started the year with many of the 2020 Grand Finalists.
Sharks have some good new recruits but other players we have bought and developed over other years are still coming in handy.
You don't have to go full GWS leg up to give a team a small concession like a couple extra months to chat to players for their second season.

Also not sure how big their 'rusted on fans' department is given they didn't exist before. Might inherit a few people who liked the Cup Dolphins more than the Broncos.

Nobody is saying they should be in contest for Premiership in first few seasons but they do need to at least be competitive. Currently they aren't going to be.
 

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How is having an existing club/team before that year irrelevant for a team? Came in handy for Penrith last season when they started the year with many of the 2020 Grand Finalists.
Sharks have some good new recruits but other players we have bought and developed over other years are still coming in handy.
You don't have to go full GWS leg up to give a team a small concession like a couple extra months to chat to players for their second season.

Also not sure how big their 'rusted on fans' department is given they didn't exist before. Might inherit a few people who liked the Cup Dolphins more than the Broncos.

Nobody is saying they should be in contest for Premiership in first few seasons but they do need to at least be competitive. Currently they aren't going to be.
On the other hand it's never come in handy for the Titans or Warriors, or very rarely at least.
 

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On the other hand it's never come in handy for the Titans or Warriors, or very rarely at least.
True, I reckon they'd take it over a full do over each year unless every other team had to do a full do over too.

I don't think the NRL wants another Warriors/Titans out of a new franchise and generally speaking I'm not too interested in one joining the NRL either. Be nice if they were watchable... as long as Sharks can still beat them...
 

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True, I reckon they'd take it over a full do over each year unless every other team had to do a full do over too.

I don't think the NRL wants another Warriors/Titans out of a new franchise and generally speaking I'm not too interested in one joining the NRL either. Be nice if they were watchable... as long as Sharks can still beat them...
Agree you don't want them to be a basket case but I reckon they've had time to sort their **** out. They have a pretty decent coach as well.

I can't remember now but was the Storm given any concessions?
 

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Agree you don't want them to be a basket case but I reckon they've had time to sort their **** out. They have a pretty decent coach as well.

I can't remember now but was the Storm given any concessions?
Massive amounts of extra cash.
 

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Agree you don't want them to be a basket case but I reckon they've had time to sort their **** out. They have a pretty decent coach as well.

I can't remember now but was the Storm given any concessions?
Dunno about them or Titans, I think Storm at least got a huge injection of funding to start with to spend off-field.

I'm not for a substantial leg up.

Being allowed an extra 5-6 months to negotiate with players for their second season doesn't seem outrageous though given at this stage their team is very concerning. We all know their managers will ensure they players aren't disadvantaged by that if they would have wanted to sign elsewhere.

In the cap?
I think no, but not sure
 

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Agree you don't want them to be a basket case but I reckon they've had time to sort their **** out. They have a pretty decent coach as well.

I can't remember now but was the Storm given any concessions?

They were essentially created from 3 super league teams weren't they?
 

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Melbourne basically got the best of the Hunter Mariners and the Western Reds. Throw in Glenn Lazarus, Tawera Nikau and Chris Anderson.

Probably had the best intro of any new team in history, but I’m not sure you could call it a leg up
 

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When the NRL was formed, there was a discretionary fund each year of $4-5m. The ARL could allocate 50% and News Ltd could allocate 50%.

News gave their 50% each year to the Storm. The other 15 clubs shared the rest.

This was for non-player expenses. It wasn’t extra cap money. It was $2m+ each year in cash provided by the league.
 
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