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It feels not many getting back to the basics .
It's on a sporting field under full on conditions.
QUESTION : Does anyone think Leniu as a dark fella in the heat of battle actually meant to INFLICT a racist
insult ?
C'mon woke folk
ANYONE ?
 

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It feels not many getting back to the basics .
It's on a sporting field under full on conditions.
QUESTION : Does anyone think Leniu as a dark fella meant his comment in the heat of battle to.be INFLICTED as a racist insult ?
C'mon woke folk
ANYONE ?
What is a woke folk?
Is that just someone who is against racism?

I can’t speak to Spencer’s true motivations any more than I have. But could a person from one race hold discriminatory feeling about another race? Absolutely
 

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I agree with that, I just think it doesn’t make racism okay in his environment still.
I’d probably get in more trouble for punching someone at work than he would too but he’s also not supposed to do that (anymore).

At this stage it’s blown out of proportion because of the stage and his (and families) antics immediately afterwards but is far far from the worst thing that’s happened in the NRL.
I can’t agree with a take Mam should just have to cop it or should just choose not to be offended though. I doubt there is any word you could call me that would hit similarly but I won’t decide for Mam and Nicho and others that has to be the same for them.
I don't think racism is okay in any environment.

Well you'd be sacked and charged with assault I imagine. He'd get 10 in a room by himself.

I agree I'd give him time & punishment for doing it in ****ing Vegas with a lotta important ($$$) eyeballs watching. He was 1 of the 1st lot that went over too so he knew the situation.

I can't decide what offends anyone else. I can decide whether I think its all a bit OTT or not.

What does Nicho have to do with this sorry?
 

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I don't think racism is okay in any environment.

Well you'd be sacked and charged with assault I imagine. He'd get 10 in a room by himself.

I agree I'd give him time & punishment for doing it in ****ing Vegas with a lotta important ($$$) eyeballs watching. He was 1 of the 1st lot that went over too so he knew the situation.

I can't decide what offends anyone else. I can decide whether I think its all a bit OTT or not.

What does Nicho have to do with this sorry?
Nicho appears to feel it is not just an ‘Ezra is a sensitive little guy. Play on’ situation. I’m highlighting it is more than just Ezra who have taken issue to it. These guys obviously feel Ezra was right not to just cop it as a sticks and stones situation and was right to push back.

 

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What is a woke folk?
Is that just someone who is against racism?

I can’t speak to Spencer’s true motivations any more than I have. But could a person from one race hold discriminatory feeling about another race? Absolutely
Everything stems from one word MONKEY.
Do you really believe Spencer was trying to be racist?
 

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Everything stems from one word MONKEY.
Do you really believe Spencer was trying to be racist?
I have no particular reason to disbelieve it.
Do you really believe he couldn’t be just because they both (I assume) have darker skin than you?
 

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When I say WOKE, the so called PERFECT digitally communitive society , where everyone spends 2 minutes thinking what they should say to align with everyone elses feelings ,
Comedians won't exist anymore, all sued.
Is that what we want ?

FAAARK, how would this go down in a Broken Hill Pub on a Friday Avro ?
Sorry Johnno you've hurt my feelings. .

Everything can be taken out of context IF you dig deep enough , I will BET a comment from one dark fella to another dark fella wasn't meant as a racist weapon .
Aaaah , in the moment Leniu thinks you're an Indigenous Australian , I've read somewhere Monkey is derogative to your culture ONLY , I can use that on the playing field to hurt you when I get the opportunity - NO WAY it was aimed at a particular race

Does anyone really think it was intended to be racist comment from a Samoan ( who has most likely experienced racism) to an Australian Indigenous person ?

This is the clincher , YES or NO
 
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One last thing

What if he was actually describing the attributes of a MONKEY ?
Nothing to do with racism
YET , sensitive persons interpret it that way ?

THEN gets WEAPONSED
 
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Nicho appears to feel it is not just an ‘Ezra is a sensitive little guy. Play on’ situation. I’m highlighting it is more than just Ezra who have taken issue to it. These guys obviously feel Ezra was right not to just cop it as a sticks and stones situation and was right to push back.

Fair enough. He's entitled to his opinion. It doesn't sway mine. He's an NRL player so non zero chance he's not a bad person.
 

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Thought Bennet had a good take on this. Essentially said no RL doesn't have a racism problem. We don't need a crack down. People say **** they regret, and if that's what happened there should be a punishment but it shouldn't be anything silly. Told all the drama queens to get ****ed too.

I'm sure someone can find the link.
Bennett and I'm guessing everyone else in here with that view are all white. As am I. I'd prefer to listen to people like Nicho on matters such as these.
 

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I didn't realise Nicho was responsible for his Mum's behaviour.
Well she got outta jail because he and his brother took some responsibility by housing her and providing a better environment. If you don't think Nicho's status, earnings & support didn't factor in you're kidding yourself.
 

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Nicho appears to feel it is not just an ‘Ezra is a sensitive little guy. Play on’ situation. I’m highlighting it is more than just Ezra who have taken issue to it. These guys obviously feel Ezra was right not to just cop it as a sticks and stones situation and was right to push back.

It seems like the hurt comes from & is for people that came before them. Not actually them experiencing anything like their ancestors did. Everyone's ancestors had a shittier life because life was shittier. Bad things happened & some copped it worse than others. That's nature. Stop seeing yourself as a victim of past wrongs & move forward as strong proud people who can't be touched by silly words. Basically ya acting like a weak ****, people gonna treat ya that way.
 
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This entire conversation is just stupid

Seriously none of you are going to change each other's minds, your arguing for the sake of it ffs.

Move on.
 

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This entire conversation is just stupid

Seriously none of you are going to change each other's minds, your arguing for the sake of it ffs.

Move on.
Discussion isn't stupid, its how people work **** out. If we were getting personal or nasty its stupid but I think we're all arguing in good faith.

I don't aim to change anyone's mind. Who the **** am I to do that & try tell you what to think?

Who the **** are you to declare it stupidity and because you don't wanna partake we should all stop?
 

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Discussion isn't stupid, its how people work **** out. If we were getting personal or nasty its stupid but I think we're all arguing in good faith.

I don't aim to change anyone's mind. Who the **** am I to do that & try tell you what to think?

Who the **** are you to declare it stupidity and because you don't wanna partake we should all stop?

So you're arguing for the sake of arguing just as I said?

That ****ing stupid.
 

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So you're arguing for the sake of arguing just as I said?

That ****ing stupid.
I'm expressing my opinion. As are they. Its not necessarily an "argument" because its not angry or heated but its a healthy exchange of views. If you wish not to partake thats fine and easy; all ya gotta do is STFU but you clearly have an opinion & wanted to express that.
 

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Blaming Mam and "sensitive people" is such an obviously bad take that I can only assume you're trolling.

For the record I agree that Leniu's probably not racist, but he's definitely a ****.
 
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