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So the patriots making the playoffs with their current roster is a **** season? Fmd. Leant how to NFL.

Oh and he's the guy your beloved franchise gave 60 million....

It's not ****in hard for the pats to make the playoffs (I don't think they will anyway) but the fact is they will have a **** season which is what I have been saying.

Lets compare them to the storm. The storm roll into the top 8 every year it's to be expected, just like the Pats roll into the play offs every year. But if the storm lose a few players but keep Smith and cronk (lose slater) and make the 8 but get knocked out.... It's a **** season for them. Just like if the Pats going on past results,scrape into the playoffs via wild card it will be a **** season for them.

And oh thanks I have never heard of him before, hopefully he will be good.
 

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The pats will win that division. That's what I said from my initial post....

There's no way winning you're division is a **** season. Especially after losing 4 of your top 6 receivers, starting center, starting left guard, starting strong safety and starting 3-4DE/4-3DT.

Your analogy with the storm is pointless and doesn't directly correlate.

Tell me more about the dolphins and the schemes they run.
 

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They wont win there division lol please like i said they will be a wild card entry at best.

And mate i didnt even know who Mike Wallace is, how would i know anything else?
 

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They wont win there division lol please like i said they will be a wild card entry at best.

And mate i didnt even know who Mike Wallace is, how would i know anything else?

Dolphins, Bills, Jets..... Yeah patriots are winning that division.

Never said that you didn't know who mike Wallace is.

You're trolling is hitting an all-time low.
 

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I was the one who said I didn't know who he was. Since you obviously thought bringing him up was gonna make me bite.... Which it didn't.

I think you underestimate what him and Tannehill will do together. It's gonna be what Henne and Marshall was meant to do.

And TBH watch the jets space... They are gonna go better then people think
 

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I was the one who said I didn't know who he was. Since you obviously thought bringing him up was gonna make me bite.... Which it didn't.

I think you underestimate what him and Tannehill will do together. It's gonna be what Henne and Marshall was meant to do.

And TBH watch the jets space... They are gonna go better then people think

I don't underestimate Wallace. He just isn't that good. He is a good deep threat receiver that can only run 2 routes. Average hands, unwilling to fight for jump balls and not interested in 'running across the middle'. You are putting him on a pretty big pedestal.

The dolphins and jets both have great defenses, but against Tom Brady that won matter much unless you have elite coverage across the middle, elite pass rush and a honest defensive play caller. Neither the jets or dolphins have that.

Miami will be 9-7 at best and that won't be enough to win the division.
 

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I don't underestimate Wallace. He just isn't that good. He is a good deep threat receiver that can only run 2 routes. Average hands, unwilling to fight for jump balls and not interested in 'running across the middle'. You are putting him on a pretty big pedestal.

The dolphins and jets both have great defenses, but against Tom Brady that won matter much unless you have elite coverage across the middle, elite pass rush and a honest defensive play caller. Neither the jets or dolphins have that.

Miami will be 9-7 at best and that won't be enough to win the division.
Miami will be 10-6, early season will be rubbish, dominate when Tannehill and wallace work there **** out
 

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Dont worry about Wallace he the cherry on top. Hartline, Keller dolphins have for the first time a top receiving corps
 

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Exactly. Not even in the top 20. I'd argue 25 as well.


He only had one target last season- Hartline.
Now at least he has another option in Wallace. He will be better this season, he will need to be.
 

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Nah he is at the browns

I liked Bess, thought he was a good 3rd option receiver. Pity you couldn't keep him.

Here's my QB rankings in relation to where Tannehill would fall.

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Matt Ryan
6. Eli Manning
7. Ben Roeslisberger
8. Joe Flacco
9. Robert Griffin III
10. Russell Wilson
11. Andrew Luck
12. Matt Schuab
13. Colin Kaepernick
14. Jay Cutler
15. Matthew Stafford
16. Phillip Rivers
17. Cam Newton
18. Tony Romo
19. Andy Dalton
20. Josh Freeman
21. Alex Smith
22. Sam Bradford
23. Carson Palmer
24. Michael Vick
25. Mark Sanchez
26. Ryan Tannehill
27. Jake Locker
28. Christian Ponder
29. Kevin Kolb
30. Chad Henne
31. Matt Flynn
32. Brandon Weeden

So yeah 26th best in the league at this point IMO. Has the potential to jump into the late-mid teens this season, but i don't see it happening that quick.
 

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I liked Bess, thought he was a good 3rd option receiver. Pity you couldn't keep him.

Here's my QB rankings in relation to where Tannehill would fall.

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Matt Ryan
6. Eli Manning
7. Ben Roeslisberger
8. Joe Flacco
9. Robert Griffin III
10. Russell Wilson
11. Andrew Luck
12. Matt Schuab
13. Colin Kaepernick
14. Jay Cutler
15. Matthew Stafford
16. Phillip Rivers
17. Cam Newton
18. Tony Romo
19. Andy Dalton
20. Josh Freeman
21. Alex Smith
22. Sam Bradford
23. Carson Palmer
24. Michael Vick
25. Mark Sanchez
26. Ryan Tannehill
27. Jake Locker
28. Christian Ponder
29. Kevin Kolb
30. Chad Henne
31. Matt Flynn
32. Brandon Weeden

So yeah 26th best in the league at this point IMO. Has the potential to jump into the late-mid teens this season, but i don't see it happening that quick.
As i said, compared to the receivers available to these QBs Tannehill had no-one, plus he's a rookie, plenty of room for improvement
 

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Good list, though Roethlisberger has deteriorated over the last the last few seasons, dont think he is a top 10 quaterback anymore.
 

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Admittedly I have cheeseburger ranked that high due to reputation. Could easily see the next 5 or so under him being ahead of the cheese mid season.
 
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