2023 NRL General Discussion

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At 33/34/35

If he can stay fit though even if he declines a bit Mam could come up to close the gap
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Mam is a really quality player, 21 tries in 37 games is impressive. I’m sure he still has plenty of improvement left in him but Reynolds brings something completely different to the team which is required to win at the business end. Halfbacks like him don’t grow on trees, so I think their sustained success over the next few years is heavily reliant on his fitness.

But you could say that about almost every team and their key player except maybe a Penrith
 
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My hunch is Panthers this year and then Brisbane mature from it and take 2024 & 2025.
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I hate to say it but I honestly just see Penrith doing it again in 24. Players like Martin, Sorrenson, Cleary, FH and their young outside backs just keep getting better

Their main loss will be Critta and they’ll just throw Peachy, May or Almoti in there and probably barely lose anything with their system. I mean they lost one of their best in Api this year and it’s hardly put a dent on them.

Broncos lose Felger, Farnsworth, Palasia and Renny a year older on the wrong side of 30 (whether that’s good or bad thing because he’s currently at the top of his game) I think they will still be very competitive and top 4 but their best chance might actually be now.
 
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Gal The Goat said:
I hate to say it but I honestly just see Penrith doing it again in 24. Players like Martin, Sorrenson, Cleary, FH and their young outside backs just keep getting better

Their main loss will be Critta and they’ll just throw Peachy, May or Almoti in there and probably barely lose anything with their system. I mean they lost one of their best in Api this year and it’s hardly put a dent on them.

Broncos lose Felger, Farnsworth, Palasia and Renny a year older on the wrong side of 30 (whether that’s good or bad thing because he’s currently at the top of his game) I think they will still be very competitive and top 4 but their best chance might actually be now.
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Penrith also lose Leniu which isn’t nothing. Only short stints from him but took some pressure off the two starters to have him on bench. Lindsay looks decent but doesn’t bring the change of pace, just a ‘not as good’ prop coming on.

2025 they only have to re-sign or replace May, Turuva, Kenny and various mediocre forwards (Eisenhuth, Hosking, Garner, C Smith) and whoever that Crichton replacement is which should be all pretty doable, cheap and likely half or more of the replacements are resigning or juniors already in their system.

I think Flegler and Herbie will both be able to replaced ‘fine’ in broncos system but two very good players being replaced by two guys who go fine can definitely cost you some wins, especially at the point end.

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Mam is a really quality player, 21 tries in 37 games is impressive. I’m sure he still has plenty of improvement left in him but Reynolds brings something completely different to the team which is required to win at the business end. Halfbacks like him don’t grow on trees, so I think their sustained success over the next few years is heavily reliant on his fitness.

But you could say that about almost every team and their key player except maybe a Penrith
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Apparently Mam came through as a halfback so if he’s a good student he might be able to learn a lot from ARey - although many of the best control halfbacks don’t master those skills until late 20s and into 30s
 
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Just hope it's a good close game (I think it will be).

NRL & AFL had stinker one sided GF's over the last year - games over as soon as they started
 
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bort said:
Penrith also lose Leniu which isn’t nothing. Only short stints from him but took some pressure off the two starters to have him on bench. Lindsay looks decent but doesn’t bring the change of pace, just a ‘not as good’ prop coming on.

2025 they only have to re-sign or replace May, Turuva, Kenny and various mediocre forwards (Eisenhuth, Hosking, Garner, C Smith) and whoever that Crichton replacement is which should be all pretty doable, cheap and likely half or more of the replacements are resigning or juniors already in their system.

I think Flegler and Herbie will both be able to replaced ‘fine’ in broncos system but two very good players being replaced by two guys who go fine can definitely cost you some wins, especially at the point end.


Apparently Mam came through as a halfback so if he’s a good student he might be able to learn a lot from ARey - although many of the best control halfbacks don’t master those skills until late 20s and into 30s
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Yeah Kikau last year and Spencer this year, two big losses as far as impact is concerned.
 
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bort said:
Penrith also lose Leniu which isn’t nothing. Only short stints from him but took some pressure off the two starters to have him on bench. Lindsay looks decent but doesn’t bring the change of pace, just a ‘not as good’ prop coming on.
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I actually forgot about him. He has been pretty handy for them so he will be a big enough loss them. Penrith these days though I just feel players like him they seem to just find a easy enough replacement in their system somewhere
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I think Flegler and Herbie will both be able to replaced ‘fine’ in broncos system but two very good players being replaced by two guys who go fine can definitely cost you some wins, especially at the point end.
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Apparently they rate that Deine Mariner as a bigger prospect so weren’t all that upset to lose Farnsworth. I do think Farnsworth has had a cracking year, arguably their best outside back. Fleger probably similar to above about Leniu, find the next big angry middle and play him off their bench
 
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Gal The Goat said:
I actually forgot about him. He has been pretty handy for them so he will be a big enough loss them. Penrith these days though I just feel players like him they seem to just find a easy enough replacement in their system somewhere

Apparently they rate that Deine Mariner as a bigger prospect so weren’t all that upset to lose Farnsworth. I do think Farnsworth has had a cracking year, arguably their best outside back. Fleger probably similar to above about Leniu, find the next big angry middle and play him off their bench
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Aren’t many players like Leniu - arguably the best ‘impact’ prop in the game.
Having a solid bench prop come on to give the starters a break doesn’t hurt them too much but having Leniu come on was one of the things which could give them the front foot in tighter games.
I thought loss of Kikau as a game breaker could cost them a win or two and I’ve just looked… lost two more than last season. If Leniu and Crichton cost them another two they will find the week to week of the season much more competitive - albeit with a tonne of big game experience which will still be valuable at the pointy end.

I know broncos rate Mariner but realistically chances of him being equal or better than Herbie within next few years are probably low. Herbie being more consistent than Staggs and Cobbo was important to them too.
Jensen or Fletcher Baker are their Flegler replacements - both would need a big improvement to match his contributions I think.
 
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