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Coach out there making tackles is he?
Nobody is. Players are definitely significantly to blame for our woes, but they don’t look to me like they’ve spent 18 months doing extremely defence oriented training.
If they have we are ****ed
 

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Nobody is. Players are definitely significantly to blame for our woes, but they don’t look to me like they’ve spent 18 months doing extremely defence oriented training.
If they have we are ****ed
How so?

Third best defensive record in the competition last year.

We’re ****ing three rounds in, pretty bloody good effort in 18 months really.
 

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How so?

Third best defensive record in the competition last year.

We’re ****ing three rounds in, pretty bloody good effort in 18 months really.
We seems to concede far too often when our try line is under attack, I would say

Doesn’t seem to be a lot of cohesion on the line.

Hopefully we find the nrls 3rd best defence again and it wasn’t helped by facing a lot of easy teams last year
 
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How so?

Third best defensive record in the competition last year.

We’re ****ing three rounds in, pretty bloody good effort in 18 months really.

I think we may have stayed stagnant / equal footing to our efforts last year, but other teams are lifting to play us based on our position at the end of the season.

Other teams have improved whereas maybe we have stayed the same.
small sample size I know, but that is just my gut feel from the first 3 rounds
 

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We seems to concede far too often when our try line is under attack, I would say

Doesn’t seem to be a lot of cohesion on the line.

Hopefully we find the nrls 3rd best defence again and it wasn’t helped by facing a lot of easy teams last year
It’s legitimately the third game in out of 27 rounds lol.
 

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I think we may have stayed stagnant / equal footing to our efforts last year, but other teams are lifting to play us based on our position at the end of the season.

Other teams have improved whereas maybe we have stayed the same.
small sample size I know, but that is just my gut feel from the first 3 rounds
Or maybe, just maybe, it’s round three and there are a couple of things to iron out.
 

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It’s legitimately the third game in out of 27 rounds lol.
And we conceded too often and looked disorganised. How many rounds in does it stop being lol?

If we acknowledge it needs work and it gets better later that doesn’t mean it was good now

Or maybe, just maybe, it’s round three and there are a couple of things to iron out.
Yeah, that’s great, get the iron out Fitz.
I don’t want a creased defence still when it’s only round 10 of 27 or it’s only round 20 of 27
 

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And we conceded too often and looked disorganised. How many rounds in does it stop being lol?

If we acknowledge it needs work and it gets better later that doesn’t mean it was good now
No, but it means a team is always continuing to develop.

Go watch each game again, the tries we have conceded are not from poor coaching and poor defensive structures. They’ve been from awful individual defensive decisions (Talakai, round 1), awful individual one on one tackles (Moylan round 1 & 3, Ramien round 2) and awful individual positioning (Katoa round 2 & 3).
 

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No, but it means a team is always continuing to develop.

Go watch each game again, the tries we have conceded are not from poor coaching and poor defensive structures. They’ve been from awful individual defensive decisions (Talakai, round 1), awful individual one on one tackles (Moylan round 1 & 3, Ramien round 2) and awful individual positioning (Katoa round 2 & 3).
You hate me that much?
 
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No, but it means a team is always continuing to develop.

Go watch each game again, the tries we have conceded are not from poor coaching and poor defensive structures. They’ve been from awful individual defensive decisions (Talakai, round 1), awful individual one on one tackles (Moylan round 1 & 3, Ramien round 2) and awful individual positioning (Katoa round 2 & 3).
Genuinely asking.

At what point do we expect the coach to make changes to address awful individual defensive decisions? I don't think you overhaul a system after 3 rounds (few more if you count the end of last year). I also don't think we are yet at the stage of dropping players, but we can't be too far off it. We are in a run of conceding 20 points+, particularly against good sides.

If we concede another 40 over the next two weeks do we ring the alarm bells?
 

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3rd round in
35 bloody degree heat today

it’s not time to get the knifes out for fitz
the team scored and defended well when we were down to 12 men just remember that
 

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Who cares if it’s the 3rd round.

We’ve dropped 4 points, you can’t get those back

We lost games the exact same way we did last year and we are worse defensively now a year into his program then when he first started

We don’t have no juniors playing for us neither so that’s not an excuse anymore
 

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Who cares if it’s the 3rd round.

We’ve dropped 4 points, you can’t get those back

We lost games the exact same way we did last year and we are worse defensively now a year into his program then when he first started

We don’t have no juniors playing for us neither so that’s not an excuse anymore
Right… come let’s both do the same kind of activity in that heat and see how we do.
i have a feeling that you’ll be in the floor within 10 mins or probably less. I used to work and train in that type of heat for many of yrs, it saps you big time mentally, physically and emotionally

braliey, and Williams arent they juniors?

that game was poor from both sides and the heat was a major factor.
 

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Right… come let’s both do the same kind of activity in that heat and see how we do.
i have a feeling that you’ll be in the floor within 10 mins or probably less. I used to work and train in that type of heat for many of yrs, it saps you big time mentally, physically and emotionally

braliey, and Williams arent they juniors?

that game was poor from both sides and the heat was a major factor.
It’s got nothing to do with me or you lol

I mean none of our players are rookies
 
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